Seahorse tank

[hypn]

My little golden child has remained golden, and has not developed a pouch! [/QUOTE]


How could I forget the GOLDEN CHILD, so glad she kept her unique appearance. What would be interesting is if her genetic make up will see a entire fry of Golden Children or if she was just "different".

Lesson to be learned - never judge a seahorse by its colour -

 

[MistaOrange]

Permits approved, seahorses ordered, shipments being packed - now we need yo get you to South Africa to help us maintain a breeding stock

Mmmmmmm I think I've just red something that has made my day even better WooooHoooo they coming that's great news Andre, jeeez this wait felt like forever. Thanks dude

 

[hypn]

Mmmmmmm I think I've just red something that has made my day even better WooooHoooo they coming that's great news Andre, jeeez this wait felt like forever. Thanks dude

The wait has been for ever !!!!! I can not believe how things have changed from when I first imported Sea-horses all those years ago . Let's hold thumbs that this is the start of many species yet to come. .

 

[MistaOrange]

The wait has been for ever !!!!! I can not believe how things have changed from when I first imported Sea-horses all those years ago . Let's hold thumbs that this is the start of many species yet to come. .

I agree 100% & yes I'll be wanting to keep several other species as well & hopefully even try to get the zulu lulu one day. Wow this is getting exiting.

 

[hypn]

I agree 100% & yes I'll be wanting to keep several other species as well & hopefully even try to get the zulu lulu one day. Wow this is getting exiting.

Is rather funny how the Zulu Lulu is not available to the people in the very country it is found. Wonder how the American supplier got them in the first place - Anybody ?

 

[Anemone]

The H. capensis, or the Zulu-Lulu as Ocean Rider calls it, is not currently available to the American hobbyists. Ocean Rider has no immediate plans to release H. capensis to hobbyists. My guess is that they are only being offered to commercial breeders if/when available.

Beth from Seahorse Corral announced a few months back that she was getting some as part of a breeding program to increase the numbers of the H. capensis in captivity. I do not know Beth's source. So it is possible that the H. capensis will be available to the public in the future. At least there is hope!

 

[timinnl]

Gents - please remember all freshwater shrimps are illegal in SA

Really? What is the reason behind that? I am asking as a person living outside of SA.

Tim

 

[Anemone]

Really? What is the reason behind that? I am asking as a person living outside of SA.

Tim

I am also curious as the reason for this.

 

[timinnl]

Hi Taryn,

Kuda's are good, but hard to raise the young. I think Steve can back me up on that. R800.00 for a seahorse is pricey for a fish but the stock I receive will be retailing at the same price. Seahorses are unfortunately a lot more work to get especially when importing captive bred, the documentation is mainly to blame for pricing, stacks of applications on either side every time a sea-horse moves.

As far as QT goes once again we need to call on Steve, I am also setting one up for the Dwarfs as some will be tank bred and some not. Always better to put them through a de worming process for their own health and the tank mates.

Before buying them always try and get the Pet Shop to show you that they are eating - they will take most live food and he should have some Brine-shrimp on hand. If you notice a thrashing behaviour from the Sea-horse (shaking themselves consistently) it might be better to leave them.

Also remember if he gets a few keep your eyes open for possible mating pairs. Under normal circumstances the male strays away from the female during the day (she stays in the back) but the best pair I ever purchased were clinging on to each other like long lost lovers. They mated gave birth and lived in my tank for several years before passing away from age.

Andre

Hi Andre,

You are getting both captive & wild caught via Helen? It is my understanding that Beth her supplier only carries captive bred H. zosterae. If it is the case of you getting both kinds, I would raise them in different tanks. Mixing wc with cb is not a good idea.

Tim

 

[timinnl]

How is it to get your hands on meds in SA? Here within the EU it is very hard to get meds that the states take for granted. Do you guys have easy access to meds should you need them?

Tim

 

[HenkHugo]

Really? What is the reason behind that? I am asking as a person living outside of SA.

Tim

I am also curious as the reason for this.

The freshwater crayfish are invasive so they decided just put a blanket ban.

Other
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All spp. Of Freshwater Crustaceans
(Crabs, Prawns, Shrimps etc.)
All spp. Of Terrapins and Turtles
All spp. Of Amphibians, including Axolotls,
Newts, Salamanders and Frogs.​

With the new lists they have removed shrimps but kept the FW crayfish on there - the new lists should become law in the next year or so.

 

[hypn]

The H. capensis, or the Zulu-Lulu as Ocean Rider calls it, is not currently available to the American hobbyists. Ocean Rider has no immediate plans to release H. capensis to hobbyists. My guess is that they are only being offered to commercial breeders if/when available.

 

[hypn]

The H. capensis, or the Zulu-Lulu as Ocean Rider calls it, is not currently available to the American hobbyists. Ocean Rider has no immediate plans to release H. capensis to hobbyists. My guess is that they are only being offered to commercial breeders if/when available.

Beth from Seahorse Corral announced a few months back that she was getting some as part of a breeding program to increase the numbers of the H. capensis in captivity. I do not know Beth's source. So it is possible that the H. capensis will be available to the public in the future. At least there is hope!

I suppose knowing that Helen will be getting some is in itself good news as she in turn would make available to the trade if she has stock. They are easy to keep and forgiving to water quality, definitely a Sea-Horse worth adding to the list.

I doubt South Africa will ever get permission to keep them in order to avoid the accidental contamination of the actual Knysna Lagoon culture. Their distribution area is just too small and to vulnerable to the species.

Beth's Citis permit has still not been approved, what a pity the one person who I really went out of her way from day 1.

Andre

 

[hypn]

Hi Andre,

You are getting both captive & wild caught via Helen? It is my understanding that Beth her supplier only carries captive bred H. zosterae. If it is the case of you getting both kinds, I would raise them in different tanks. Mixing wc with cb is not a good idea.

Tim

Hi Tim,

No they are from different sources and will be kept separate , I know Beth and Helen have already provided the better breeding choice and right now would not be a good time to start mixing wc and cb. At this stage the concentration should be on trying to increase available stock via private keepers. Not sure that I will fall over my feet to obtain cb sea-horses again - did my bit, but it's hard relentless work jumping through the hoops.

 

[hypn]

How is it to get your hands on meds in SA? Here within the EU it is very hard to get meds that the states take for granted. Do you guys have easy access to meds should you need them?

Tim

Hi Tim,

I have not needed meds yet, ask me this question again in Jan. We have however got Steve on-board and I trust he is the man that could answer the question with more knowledge

Andre

 

[Steve Warren]

I am pretty much hoping that meds will not be a serious issue. Vets have in general been doing smaller species including reptiles and fish for some time now (I myself have been approached by vets to assist in determining what medications can be used to treat some of their clients fish), some remedies are available directly from chemical suppliers and pharmacists and there are also aquaculture facilities and suppliers in South Africa now that will be able to assist in finding sources of medications or sell smaller quantities themselves if approached in the right way.
One of the aquaculture companies has already helped Rogan in introducing fresher phytoplankton and rotifer to his cultures.

 

[timinnl]

The freshwater crayfish are invasive so they decided just put a blanket ban.



With the new lists they have removed shrimps but kept the FW crayfish on there - the new lists should become law in the next year or so.

Thanks for the info. Was it because of the cloned crayfish that made them do the blanket ban or are there native crayfish they are trying to protect?

 

[timinnl]

Hi Tim,

No they are from different sources and will be kept separate , I know Beth and Helen have already provided the better breeding choice and right now would not be a good time to start mixing wc and cb. At this stage the concentration should be on trying to increase available stock via private keepers. Not sure that I will fall over my feet to obtain cb sea-horses again - did my bit, but it's hard relentless work jumping through the hoops.

Is this a one time thing bringing in the CB or will you be doing more? If it is a one time thing, aren't you worry about a limited gene pool?

 

[HenkHugo]

The ban has been in place for a few decades as they will ruin an entire waterway once they are introduced. in the UK there is a massive invasion of the freshwater crayfish.

 

[timinnl]

I am pretty much hoping that meds will not be a serious issue. Vets have in general been doing smaller species including reptiles and fish for some time now (I myself have been approached by vets to assist in determining what medications can be used to treat some of their clients fish), some remedies are available directly from chemical suppliers and pharmacists and there are also aquaculture facilities and suppliers in South Africa now that will be able to assist in finding sources of medications or sell smaller quantities themselves if approached in the right way.
One of the aquaculture companies has already helped Rogan in introducing fresher phytoplankton and rotifer to his cultures.

Thanks for the quick answer. Good to know that you have access if the need arises. I keep meds on hand just in case. I replace them when they expire. Knock wood I never had to use any.

Tim