Urgent help needed small insects from live rock coming out

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  1. da.low

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    hi

    My shrimps just started to die and then I saw the (small white, see through) insects from the live rock appeared and by the looks of it, most of them are died.

    I tested my nitrites and calcium and its all good/ ok.

    I hope my corals and live stock will make it tonight :(
     
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  3. LikesFish

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    Can you take a picture? What is your water's temperature? pH? Salinity? Alkalinity? Ammonia? Nitrates? Is the water cloudy? That might indicate a bacterial bloom and indicative of something that died and caused a nutrient spike. Any copper added recently? Any copper piping / medication used? Copper kills inverts.
     
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    A picture, water parameters, and anything that has changed, added or removed from the tank might help us diagnose the problem.
     
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    Update on all the questions asked?
     
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    Temp and Calcium are ok, but my nitrate is slightly a bit to high.
    no copper besides a leather coral and two goldies that i added in yesterday.
    the water colour was all normal.. nothing dead beside my shrimps :(

    Do you perhaps think that my tank is still busy maturing because its only about 6months old?

    My live stock seemed to survived the horror :) .. but ill be doing a water change this morning and hope for the best.


    thanks for you input
     
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    pics was taken this morning... no sign of insects

    top left - one of the shrimps that died and next to it is the leather coral that was added in yesterday.

    sorry for the bad quality...
     
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    what is your temp? Yesterday was really hot so maybe that killed them.

    Please post exact values of the things youve tested.
     
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    Like Likesfish asked, what is the

    1 - temperature?
    2 - Salinity?
    3 - pH?
    4 - Nitrites?
    5 - how old were the shrimps? They usually only live for 2 years, so if you bought them big already maybe it was there time.
    6 - Do you use RO water for salt mix and evaporation top ups?
    7 - Do you mature and circulate the salt mix for 24hrs before using for a water change?
     
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    whys the dead shrimp still in the tank? no expert but dead stuff should probably be removed straight away....
     
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    it was about 28 and 29 degrees
     
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    Temp- 28 and 29
    Salinity- 1.026
    Nitrites- 25 mg/l
    I bought them big so I don't really know there age, I have them about 4months now.
    I collect water from the two oceans aquarium and do my daily top ups with RO water.
     
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    done its removed...
     
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    Was your ammonia high not so long ago? Are you sure it is nitrites (NO2) that is so high and not nitrates(NO3)? High nitrites can kill fish and inverts.
     
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    nope, yes im shore the NO2.

    but the problem seemed to be solved, thanks all for your inputs
     
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    Did you do a water change? It could also be that the shrimps were just old and died naturaly like I said. Maybe the NO2 test kit is wrong as well? Did you check with another kit? If not, I suggest you do cause high nitrites can kill your other live stock as well.
     
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    I have a hard time believing NO2 of 25 ppm. If that is the case you must have killed several cows in there....
     
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    yep, removed about 50% of my water yesterday. i thought so but what puzzled me the most is that small white transparent looking insect came out of my live rock. nope got only the one test kit, i'll be getting another test kit soon soon.

    thanks
     
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    Remember inverts are generally more sensitive to NO2 and NH4 than fish. So try to consider this when figuring out what is happening. NO3 is rarely lethal to fish. I have seen tangs at 400ppm NO3 living just fine for weeks on end - obviously far from ideal but it does not kill them, not this fast.
     
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    ok cool thanks for the advice...
     
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    Silly question but are you sure the shrimps died and its not just their exoskeletons from them moulting?
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