1200mm Surf Tank

Someone is so excited about his wavebox that he went away to play with it and forgot all about the forum;) - 24 hours and no update - must be a cool wavebox!
 
Hey Scuba. Is that wavebox noisy? I wanted to get one but not if it's gong to be noisy. I was just listening to the noise in the second video.
 
Ahhhh! Wavebox! With this toy theres really no need to go to the beach - Everyone - Surf's up dudes at Scuba's place!Awesome piece of equipment man - Congratulations - Enjoy the rest of your "surfing" days
Haha for sure man :) been wanting one since i started reefing :thumbup:
congrats stuart. looking forward to seeing the outcome.

Way to go SN. Keep us up to speed with teh progress
Thanks guys
hi Scuba,that sounds like an awesome setup.I am trying to plan a similar sort of tank without all the experience.Is 10mm glass fine for a 1.2m tank, also do you have some sort of plan as I want to show my lfs how i would like it done. I am also wanting a euro braced black silicone tank with similar lighting. I hope you build goes well and look forward to your updates.
10mm sounds great, what depth? try hennies calculator. I can email you my design for the right price ;) PM me your address
how does the wavebox work in comparison to other flow pumps. do you jst need to use the wavebox by itself, or must you still use flow pumps with it?
It works where you dont need any other pumps to create the wave. But, after my initial fiddling i found that you should have other pumps. The wavebox (WB) has a light dependant resistor which turns the WB on or off depending on whether your DT lights are on but i'm gonna make a plan with an LED if its bright enough to keep the WB going for a while after the lights turn off, for the duration that my moonlights are on:biggrin: You need other pumps though, maybe just one or two, i have a turbelle 6080 i think, 8500lph which i will put on a timer and run it maybe for something like 15 minutes on the hour or something, i have a couple ideas about it that it would take too long to type out but basically i am going to try and vary everything, try and create some usefull chaos :)
this is going to be a whopper of a system, some serious thought has gone into this one.
Thanks les, thanks again for letting me pick your brain on stuff :peroni:
Congrats dude! I have seen the bigger brother in action on George's tank, and from I have seen, you will be pleased :)
yeah i wanna try some stuff along the lines of Georges system how he has everything set up :)
Nice one Scuba, how will the sump handle the water as it is not going to be "constant"??
thanks sean, yes i had made plans for that but it will not exactly be very bad i think, i think it will be fairly constant, there will be a ball valve on the output to raise the level in the overflow so there is no slopping or that kind of noise. so i think only until i can test it will we really know :)
Tagging along here - sound like an awesome project!
thanks
 
I see you finished playing with the wavebox and remembered you have extended family here on MASA! Your punishment for deserting us should be more pics more pics more pics!
 
hey ninja

sounds very interesting. like the wavebox
it is man :) it is :) thanks
Someone is so excited about his wavebox that he went away to play with it and forgot all about the forum;) - 24 hours and no update - must be a cool wavebox!
ya i've been 'busy' :peroni:
Very nice Project :thumbup:
shot amn
Hi Scuba-just saw the video of the wave box in action. Incredible!Do you need to strengthen the tank to accomadate the box? Also is it noisy?
Are you planning a rimless design or are you having a lid? I am trying a rimless tank and want to know if the box makes alot of noise?
BTW: do you mind if I ask how much does this cost?
Yes, you need to brace the hell out of the tank, if you see in the 1st video the plastic container actually expands, your tank will do the same and actually sway to some degree. It is sort of noisey, but when i put it on a tank and not a plastic container it was very quiet. You shouldnt be able to hear it but we'll see ;) I am thinkin of not having a lid, but i will decide later on, but i cant go rimless, it wont be strong enough IMO and i dont exactly want to take the chance at all, would rather be able to sleep at night:lol:
im not entirely sure but i think it costs in the reigon of 4k.
ya :whistling:

Watching this thread

Awesome scuba!!


scuba congrats...
thanks guys
hectic water movement scuba, cant wait to see the final result:thumbup:
me too :)
:shuriken:you need to explain this wave maker to me i had the idea that it pumps water into an container witch tilt when it's full thus causing the wave motion.
this is a wavebox where a pump pushes water out, then the water floods back in and it pushes out again. Its pulses are about 0.3 seconds each. here is a link
Tunze Nano Wavebox
Really awesome man Stuart! Following this one with real interest!

So - what lifestock are you planning to keep?
thanks mate. I am trying to see how many tangs i can keep safely, i dont want to get rid of my yellows, but i think on my system i should be able to keep 4. My naso might be ok for now but he'll get too big eventually and Andreas keeps hounding me so maybe i'll give in soon :p I am going only 100% reefsafe, or there abouts :) i want to keep things that wont eat all my LPS so no angels in this tank, save for maybe a Flame. I have an idea for a small number of fish in this tank, try and make it as little maintenance on it as possible
 
Almost on the plane home :) Collect the tank on wednesday, i hope my right hand man has made my stand and has it painted by now :p But, been thinking, with the wave box every particle of water moves making it ideal for SPS where RTN can be avoided as there will always be water moving, but, now i wonder, SPS need faster water flow, now i need to figure out how much flow, like how fast the wave will move left to right? any ideas? Correct me if i'm wrong but you can keep SPS at lower flows, they just wont grow as fast correct? As long as the flow is not too low the SPS should be fine correct?
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Damn you comming back :p
Scubs, The flow is fine for SPS. SPS will only be unhappy when a pump is hitting it directly all the time dude.
Also remember, RTN is not only flow related but can be caused by many other factors eg. too high or low Calcium, too high or low alk etc....
 
Ok cool Scuba will be back in time to carry heavy stuff for the braai! You better not get on the plane if you didnt bring back goodies for every 2000+ members of MASA!
 
I was just wandering what type of water level compensation do you need for the wave. In other words what is the difference between the water level and the level of glass. I'm thinking you need a lower water level on the glass to stop the wave from going over the glass and on to the floor...
 
haha chika me carrying all the heavy stuff is not gonna happen :p
Manic for the wave on average about 50mms of clearance from the normal water level to the top of the glass is needed
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Scubs, The flow is fine for SPS. SPS will only be unhappy when a pump is hitting it directly all the time dude.<br />
Also remember, RTN is not only flow related but can be caused by many other factors eg. too high or low Calcium, too high or low alk etc....
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ok cool <img src="images/smilies/dft010.gif" border="0" alt="" title="smile" smilieid="199" class="inlineimg" /> thanks bud<br />
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haha chika me carrying all the heavy stuff is not gonna happen :p

Never mind you help me carry my HEAVY Nori down for braaing! In your opinion and if you had the space would you still use a wavebox or would you build a surgetank next to your display tank - was looking at that looks ultra cool!
 
why not use both? like a surge box on a timer to go at certain times of the day or to help during power cuts? Or possibly to be the main flow at night? Just remember they both need different things, overflow styles for example. For a surge your overflow needs to get rid of the extra water quickly where-as with a wavebox its a constant out flow through the central overflow
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Cool - gonna look into that next - like I got all the time in the world! Here's a funny question instead of letting gravity take the water "OUT" the tank and then pumping it all the way up how cool if we pumped it up first then run through a "normal" looking sump but when returning to the tank with gravities aid we vary the amount falling in - this in turn would be like a surge device!
 
Was playing with the Wavebox and decided to try it on the 2m. Remember the Nano is good for a 600l display max, my 2m display is a little over 1100 so almost double a max size. But none the less it made a wave. Not the size that the big wavebox would make, but still a wave :) i only have rock and fish in there at the moment, but there is also two mushrooms, and they move left and right ever so softly :)
And for those worried the side overflow actually handles the wave, there is a bit of a slushing noise but then i just raised the water level in the overflow and i couldnt even hear it, so i think if your return is 'slow enough' for your tank size a central overflow is not actually neccesary

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Watched the vi and it looks cool
 
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