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Elegance Coral theory

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Would love to have the importers of Coral to read this please. Very interesting:

All of the evidence we have points to the depth at which these corals are being collected as the problem causing factor. There is no rogue microbe attacking healthy elegance. There are many opportunistic organisms that will infect an elegance once it is damaged, or weakened. Which is what Borneman found. IMHO, there is no mystery here. The elegance we, in the states, receive from Indonesia, are collected at depths exceeding 100ft. The PAR, or amount of light, the coral is exposed to increases many fold as the coral is brought to the surface, during collection. This can causes physical damage in corals that posses zooxanthellae. Again, Borenman found this damage.

Thankfully, this is an easy problem to avoid. When we purchase an Indonesian elegance we can rest assured it has suffered damage on a cellular level. The odds of the coral falling victim to an infection, and dieing, is incredibly high. Australian elegance have proven they typically don't have these issues. All we have to do is stop purchasing Indonesian elegance, and buy exclusively Australian elegance. This not only saves the hobbyists money. It also stops the needless slaughter of animals. If we could shut down the exportation of elegance from Indonesia, it would give the population time to recover, and these corals could return to the shallows where our "hardy" Indonesian elegance were collected, back in the good ol days.

The bottom line here is that we MUST stop buying Indonesian elegance. The whole problem stems from over fishing to supply our demand. The only way to cure the problem is to remove the demand.

The Elegance Coral Project - Reef Central Online Community

Elegance Coral theory
 
Once a Elegance coral show signs of damage, it is already too late. Very difficult to save it.
 
Any importers that bring stuff in from Austrailia?
 
The elegance corals from Indo come from deeper water now and we shock them with our heavy lighting. They used to be seen as a beginners LPS!

Now the new stock coming in from Vietnam is being collected from shallow water and they survival rate is much much higher
 
The elegance corals from Indo come from deeper water now and we shock them with our heavy lighting. They used to be seen as a beginners LPS!

Now the new stock coming in from Vietnam is being collected from shallow water and they survival rate is much much higher

I don't think there are any lps coming in on Vietnam shipments though...pity as I would love an elegance that stands a chance at surviving.
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I got mine almost a year ago and it just growing. They have 2 for a couple of months now.
They looking great, I think the success of any coral is water quality and feeding.
I've seen elegance in at least 4 lfs's in cape town. But Perkies looks bigger an healthier.
@Perky pets superstore. Some info on where you got the corals and maybe some pics on health.
 
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There lots of elegance coming in with te vietnam shipments in CPT at the moment.
 
There lots of elegance coming in with te vietnam shipments in CPT at the moment.

Hmm...maybe my lfs here just isn't bringing them in, but last time I spoke to him I was told there are only zoas, mushrooms and clams available to him.
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There also various other LPS as well as the mini carpet nennies.

Oh yes the carpets...we don't get them in though.. they are not at all popular in east London. Got them in on first Vietnam order ans they still sitting there. I think I was the only person to buy any.

I am going to have a word with our lfs about these lps for sure.
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I have had my Elegance now for over 3 months and it is growing like wildfire ;)

I am not sure why because when it first arrived it shrunk back into itself and I did not think it would make it. Weeks went by where it would come out and then just as quick shrink back into its skeleton. An entire 2 months passed and eventually now it is out all the time and almost doubled in size :thumbup:

Its strange because my tank has never been 100% as I dont have a sump, amazing lighting or a proper skimmer but yet this coral has flourished. Where it is from I have no idea but I have a suspicion its from Vietnam. Here is a picture of it up close :)

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I have had my Elegance now for over 3 months and it is growing like wildfire ;)

I am not sure why because when it first arrived it shrunk back into itself and I did not think it would make it. Weeks went by where it would come out and then just as quick shrink back into its skeleton. An entire 2 months passed and eventually now it is out all the time and almost doubled in size :thumbup:

Its strange because my tank has never been 100% as I dont have a sump, amazing lighting or a proper skimmer but yet this coral has flourished. Where it is from I have no idea but I have a suspicion its from Vietnam. Here is a picture of it up close :)

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Lol it doesn't look too happy from that pic...retracted tenticles and all :p

The lack of skimmer and lighting is probably working in it's favour as it prefers more nutrient rich and lower lighting water conditions.
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Lol it doesn't look too happy from that pic...retracted tenticles and all :p

The lack of skimmer and lighting is probably working in it's favour as it prefers more nutrient rich and lower lighting water conditions.
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I took the photo a day after cleaning the tank and there was a few pieces of debris which fell onto it. I have read that this causes the Elegance to swell up in order to remove the debris from itself. Otherwise I just posted the picture to show how pretty it really is :thumbup:

I will take another picture today sometime to show you in all its glory sir ;)
 
lovley coral, unfortunatley the australian corals are quite a bit more at face value..
 
No, i think lanzo did once but don't think he has since. Australia has the best lps so i wish someone would do so.
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Only imported from them once....prices are very high for our market.


Elegance corals from vietnam has a much higher survival rate....we now only get in elegance corals from vietnam
 
Its strange because my tank has never been 100% as I dont have a sump, amazing lighting or a proper skimmer but yet this coral has flourished. Where it is from I have no idea but I have a suspicion its from Vietnam. Here is a picture of it up close :)

As Kunhardt said this is often a reason for them doing well as they come out of turbid, high nutrient water often. It's also another reason why they were so great in the old days when we only had crap lighting available to us and hadn't developed the great skimmers or techniques for nutrient removal we have today.

And yes I think that the Vietnamese elegance do seem tougher (less over-extended fisheries at this stage). Possibly due to them being far stricter on how much gets removed, by restricting CITES permits I assume, so well done to Vietnam for hopefully protecting their resources better.:)
 
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