So... I got Whitespot

I hv ws in my system and the only 2 showing signs are my tangs. Doesnt mean they are not carrrying it. It begins invisible to the naked eye. And you probably have cysts on your lr or glass etc
 
Ag dammit, so the only way is to catch all the fish and do the 2 bucket thing with all of them, and then put them in my qt tank for 8 weeks?
 
My only problem now is I have to put 8 fish in a boyu tl 550 tank, don't know if it's going to work and the other thing is what do I feed the fish in the buckets? Would it be better to feed live brine shrimp than frozen shrimps?
 
boyu will be fine..just provide places for them to hide and watch nutrients. Dont feed and frozens in the buckets. Try flakes only and minimal as the only method of nutrient export is your water changes
 
Oky everything eats flakes except the regal tang and I am not sure what the lawnmower blenny would eat?
 
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And then you replace 50% of the water with new water or can you use water from you're main tank?
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first fill, you can do from main display. But as your system are likely infected, you need to do the other water changes with freshly mixed salt.

My lawnmower do eat flakes.
 
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My display is clean, so instead of doing a 100L water change this weekend, I'm doing 20L every second day 5 times.
 
Oky I have gotten a lot of advice and did read up a bit aswell, is it possible to have a white spot free aquarium, as I read almost all systems have white spot but if you're fish are healthy it won't bother you?
 
If you qt all if your fish for 6 weeks before adding them to your display wouldn't you have a ws free system? Or if you don't add a fish for a year and no ws symptoms are shown? @RiaanP
 
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If it is possible to keep a ws free aquarium I would rather go that route coz I would one day like some yellow tang and a powder blue in my system
 
Radies said:
is it possible to have a white spot free aquarium,
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yes it is.
My system is clean. Since 2009 I think.

Last time I dealt with WS in my Quarantine was September 2011. 3 years ago.

I did a tank move a couple of months ago. Got a regal and no issues after the move.

Also there are some research done a couple of years ago to see how long WS can last in a system. They die out after 10 to 11 months. Seems they can only sustain themselves that long for some unknown reason.

14. INTERESTING FIND: If no new MI is introduce into an infected aquarium, the MI already there continues to cycle through multiple generations until about 10 to 11 months when the MI has ‘worn itself out’ and becomes less infective. A tank can be free of an MI infestation if it is never exposed to new MI parasites for over 11 months.
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Marine Ich - Myths and Facts
 
@RiaanP is it advisable to feed nori while doing the bucket system? Im concerned my regal and lawnmower blennie are not eating when i feed. They both eat flakes, frozens and nori. When in the main tank they ate like pigs! I hv not seen the blennie touch a thing! Starting to get concerned..thoughts?
 
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@RiaanP what a good read, it made up my mind I am going to try and clear my system of mi!
 
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can try nori, easy to remove uneaten pieces.


That Leebca guy knows his story. He had his first salt water aquarium the year I were born.
Lee's Bio (a.k.a. leebca)




Check out this study he did on garlic
After the Horge Cortes-Jorge Jr. article, Garlic versus 'Marine Ich': Diallyl thiosulfinate activity against Cryptocaryon irritans infestations of marine fish of 2000, from 2005 to 2008 inclusive I conducted some additional garlic juice tests. Fresh garlic juice might prove to be more useful.

I used a 6-sectioned 70 gallon tank, using only the middle 4 sections. One fish in each section. All fishes of one species of Damsel. Garlic juice was of two brands off the LFS shelf except when I made my own. Juice was added to homemade food the fish were exclusively fed. Commercially prepared foods were soaked in it. All fish were healthy at first. Microscopically they seemed to be disease/parasite free and without health issues. They were then infected with Marine Ich and the experiment began when they all displayed. A ‘set’ is with each of the 4 sections contains one-fish each, test running/stopping in 3 months.

2 sets (8) fish were tested, feeding garlic to half the fish at each feeding. 2 fish lived past 3 months; one on garlic, one not on garlic.

2 sets (8) fish were tested, all fish were fed garlic. 1 fish lived past 3 months.

1 set (4) fish were not fed any garlic. 1 fish lived past 3 months

2 sets (8) fish were tested, feeding fresh garlic juice to half the fish at each feeding. 1 fish lived past 3 months.

1 set (4) fish were tested, fresh garlic juice added to water at 1 teaspoon per 5 gallons. No fish lived past 3 months.

Living fishes were microscopically tested and found to be infected with the Marine Ich parasite.

1 set (4) fish were tested, no garlic juice. Given treatment with Cupramine. all 4 fish were alive at the 3 month mark. All fish tested microscopically to be free of the Marine Ich parasite.

I cannot detect any improvement or advantage to using fresh garlic juice to help marine fish fend off Marine Ich.
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32 fish infected and treated with garlic, only 5 fish lived past 3 months. And when testing those survivors, they all still had WS.
Cupramine seems to work, although he is very against copper and see it as poison on some of his articles.
 
OK, just done my second move. 25 minutes this time

Especially the banner looks a lot better.
 
well. looking at the whitespot cycle

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they are 3 to 7 days on the fish.
Max size is .2 to .25 of a mm. That means that when we humans can see it on the fish, the WS is in the last day or 2 on the fish. So those that was on the fish, almost in "adult" size already dropped off.

They are now in the old bucket, under tapwater... See if you can handle that hypo you WS piece of little ....

another two bucket swaps then they can go into the other quarantine system. Yeah!!!
 
My third tomorrow evening-suffered my first loss today- a chromis- found him sucked onto the uplift pump. Dont know why but i just hope its not a sign of things to come....
 
looking at the live cycle, your fish should now almost be clean.

Think the chromis ventured to close and got caught. What size pump is that?
 
@RiaanP and advice on hw to set up a good quarantine system? I was thinking of getting some dry base rock and using special blend to get the bacteria going. Then have a heater, uplift pump, hang on filter, hang on skimmer and an airstone...thoughts? Nutrient export? Water changes?
 
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