Foxface - Hole in the head - Help please

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    Hi Guys,

    My Foxface has started getting holes in his face from his mouth to above his right eye. There are 5 holes.

    So far I have read that this can be caused due to malnutrition or activated carbon. I reduced feeding the past couple of weeks to try and get phospates down in my system so I was feeding once a day.

    Since I spotted this I have been trying to make sure he eats healthy and target him with pellets that he does eat a lot of.

    I have also removed the carbon from the system yesterday. Is there any other treatment that I could do? I really would not like to try and catch him out of the tank to treat cause he stresses really bad and really easy.
     
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  3. NJH

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    Is he getting enough algea to eat. Are you feeding him nori? What are your water parameters. I would not remove the carbon.
     
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    Amonia 0
    Nitite 0
    Nitrate 2-5 ppm
    Alk 7.8
    Temp 25
    SG 1.024
    Mag 1450
    Calsium 415
    Ph 8.2
    PO4 aporx 0.2 - 0.3

    I have been feeding him Ocean Nutrition formula 1 pellets and Omega One's mikro pellets and veggie flakes.
     
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    It needs alot of greens and the flakes will not cut it. Get some nori and feed sufficient amount daily.
     
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    What would be a good amount daily? Its just the fox two clowns and two chromis in the tank
     
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    Well start small. The foxface may take time to learn to eat. Remove whatever is left daily. I suggest starting with a small matchbox sized piece. Increase the size accordingly. I would say up to the size of a pack of smokes and up to twice a day. All depends on the size of the fish as well.
     
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    I feed half a nori sheet every day (foxy and 3 tangs). Get them at food lovers sushi section, cheaper that way.
     
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    Thanks guys! I apreciate it. If i do get some progress I will update.
     
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    Unfortunately it seems the hole in his head has gotten to a point where he can no longer move his mouth and cant take in food. I dont expect him to live very much longer. What do I do? Just wait for him to die? Seems so cruel...
     
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    Im very new to this but I agree with you. If there is no coming back maybe it would be fairer on the guy. It's a tough call
     
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    Still alive?
     
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    yip and hole bigger
     
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    This doesn't look like MHLLE, This looks like a skin parasite.
    Has he always had that dark spot by his belly? And is he still eating?
     
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    No the dark spot is new last few days. He was for a while but it liiks like his face is too damaged to be able to grab food
     
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    Do you think I can still save him?
     
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    Bud, honestly. He is busy dying.
    Moving him to a QT and trying some meds might not be a bad idea. The problem is trying to 100% identify what he has.
    I'll dig in my saved archives and try and get as close to a ID that I can.
     
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    Thanks a lot Juan. Should I remove him for the saftey of the rest of the fish?
     
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