Zak's 4ft

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  1. zak

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    Greetings MASA..

    Wonderful place..My first crack at a marine tank(no pun intended), seeking all the advice possible. Thus far iv purchased a TS3 skimmer, Sicce 2.5 return pump, 4ft 270 litre DT.
    My plan is FOWLR. Iv also got a standard 3ft which im gonna convert into the sump. The DT is on order, will post pics soon as it arrives.. Any suggestions on the sump before i start the build??
     
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    yes make it as big as possible, 3ft is a bit small unless its a custom wider/longer one
     
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    i agree with Ziyaad...make it as big as possible if you can;)
     
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    welcome to masa zak, good luck with your build and put up photos, before and after!
     
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    Next step is purchasing substrate.. Aragonite Sugar fine vs Fiji Pink vs Play Sand, Recommendation/Suggestions??
     
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    Im in a bit of a predicament.. My DT hasn't arrived, my sump is not ready.. Im receiving 10kg's of LR today(thanks Marco van Waterboy).. What is the best way to maintain the LR without my DT or the sump..
     
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    I would mix a little Aragonite with play sand. You gonna need quite a bit, so mixing is the cheaper way to go. Its what I did on my 4ft.
     
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    Welcome Zak and good luck with the new system.

    With regards to the sump...try and make sure u have space for a dsb, dedicated refugium is always nice for macro algaes and growing those goggas that are good for your system and a seperate Chamber u can use as a RO reservoir...for an auto top up system. These 3 combined with your skimmer and return chambers should do u well. :)
     
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    Prospective sump design

    Guys, some images of my prospective sump.. The green tape is where the tank will be partitioned. in this arrangement i get maximum area for the DSB.. Comments/advise please..

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    Looks great, nice big space for the DSB! :) beast of a skimmer too.

    Just bear in mind that if you want to do a refugium with rooted macroalgae it should be kept seperate from your DSB. You can however keep a tumbling ball of cheatomorpha above a dsb.
     
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    Guys, How high should i make the first chamber? Can anyone with a TS3 please tell me how high should the water lever outside the skimmer be(the first chamber)?
     
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    Thanks Dane.. My plan is not to keep a refugium, just a DSB with some macro algae..
     
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    Make the return chamber bigger. If your pump fails and you need to replace it you might battle to get one that size again. And you dont want to break the sump to fit a new pump.
     
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    I didn't think of that, thanks.. Will leave room for a Hailea 6530.. Although i won't be too happy if the sicce fails, at least its covered by 3 year warranty..
     
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    Thats fine, so long as the macro algae is chaetomorpha and will be kept suspended above the DSB. What I'm getting at here is you should not plant a rooted macroalgae on top of your DSB. Its better to keep the surface of your DSB clear.
     
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    Basically as much space as possible above the DSB? Im still trying to figure out how deep the first chamber should be..
     
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    Not just that, you will also need to top up more frequently as the evaporation will make a bigger difference in the water level with such a small return chamber. I agree, make it a bit bigger ;)
     
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    return need to be a little bigger, I recomend you put a auto topup system to prevent it from running dry.
     
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    With a return chamber that big your water level will drop very quickly from evaporation. If your auto topup resevoir runs dry your pump will run dry pretty quickly.
    Otherwise it's quite a tight squeeze in general. Bear in mind you want to keep skimmer/pump not touching the glass at all (will vibrate).
     
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