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  1. Fires

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    Is this guy coral friendly ???[​IMG]
     
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    Hi Shaun - this is a really beautiful fish, but they should rather be part of a FISH ONLY system, rather than a reef aquarium. The reason for this, is, that they move rocks around while looking for pods and worms to eat. They become a menace in a reef tank.

    Also - they eat hermit crabs, and kill and eat starfish....

    They will not harm corals directly, BUT, while toppling and moving rocks around - the corals could be harmed indirectly....
     
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    Hi Jacques,thanx for that info.

    I Bought 3 X Clams,this morning they were open with nothing inside.
    What do you think happend to them ???
     
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    When did you buy them Shaun? This means that they died.... Is this ALL 3 of the clams?

    The mantle usually "wastes away" over a period of +-2 to 3 weeks, when they are dying.......
     
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    The local shop here in centurion.The blueish stuff came out about 4cm.Now there are nothing.
     
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    IF this was recent, Shaun - I would say go back and have a chat with the shop owner. It seems that these clams were not healthy at all when you got them.

    You are trying to keep marine invertebrates that require pristine water conditions, HUGE lighting, and very high calcium.

    Can you perhaps tell me what lighting do you have over your tank? How old is your tank now? And what skimmer do you have? Do you have a Calcium measuring kit perhaps?
     
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    Im running a complete profilux system with dosing pumps for all.8 X t5 54w light.
    4 are giesman blue and 4 are giesman white bulbs.Reef Oct 900l skimmer with pinwheel & bubbleplate.All the best stuff.Water gets changed weekly by Pete from centurion.
     
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    OK Shaun - that sounds good (the lighting and skimmer).... So - no problems with that then.

    The quality of the clams might have been at fault. They might already have been dying when you got them.

    Do you perhaps know what type of clams they are/were? T. Crocea? T. Squasmosa? T. Derosa? T. Gigea? or T. Maxima?

    Do you perhaps have pics of the clams when there were indeed ok still?
     
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    Nee ek het nie `n idee watter soort dit was nie.Maar hulle was mooi vir `n paar dae.
     
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    Hi Jacquesb the clams where crocea clams I have also got the suspision that the clams where not in good health when he got them.

    @Shaun post a pic of that crab you have in the tank and maybee jacquesb could tell if if it was the crab that killed the clams. Which I dont think was the cause as I think the clam had a meal once the clam had perished
     
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    How old is the tank?
     
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    Its about 9 Months ols but did put in a new bigger sump and skimmer
     
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    Thanks for confirming, Pete.

    Thanks Shaun.

    It is unfortunately VERY common place that T. crocea clams are sometimes far cheaper, and more commonly imported, than the t. squasmosa (which is a far more hardy clam, or even the t. derosa - the most hardy of the clams).

    The T. Crocea clams is indeed FANTASTICALLY beautiful - BUT, they are the most difficult to keep alive...... Also - they do require to be placed on the rock work....

    Shaun / Pete - under what lighting was the clams at the LFS? And were they in the same tank as the SPS corals (which they needed to be)?
     
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    Hi Jacquesb, the lighting at that lfs are pathetic as far as I know they only have t8's on that system, he does not sell sps's only soft and LPS
     
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    Eish - as I said: t. crocea clams is the clams that require the BEST of lighting.... and the best of water conditions....

    Oh well - unfortunately that's an expensive lesson that Shaun had to learn.... :(

    Shaun - once piece of advice - if you don't mind:

    Please rather pay a deposit at the LFS, take pics of the clams/corals, etc. and come and ask here on MASA - BEFORE you pay the whole amount and take the lifestock home.......

    Believe me - you will get the BEST advice here, and it would stop you from losing a huge amount of money, and have lifestock die in your tank (which is traumatic at best - believe me, I know - been there - done that).....
     
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    Dis net so Pete
     
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    R695 X 3 Gone down the drain !!!
     
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    Sorry to hear (jammer om te hoor, ou maat!)....
     
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    Bliksem shuan, sorry to hear bro, dont buy from any LFS is my best advice
     
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    Ja nee,Lanzo gaan my uithaal omdat ek nie by hom gekoop het nie.Pete het my al klaar uitgehaal.
     
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