Urgent help needed White layer forming over fish eyes

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  1. Landu

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    PLease advise on what to do...
    Yesterday everything super eating like normal, this morning when swithed on the lights on Predator tank, the Lionfish seemed blind but swimming around now, although there is a milky layer forming over his eyes and his behaviour is a bit off...
    What is it, what can i do?
     
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    Is it over one eye or both eyes?
     
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    It's both eyes, it's doesn't seem to be a layer but milky...
     
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    How are the water parameters?

    sounds bacterial?
     
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    Sounds like an eye infection normally caused by scraping against something and getting a bacterial infection. This normlly only happens in one eye though. If it is an eye infection it normally looks a lot worse than it is and the fish normally pull through, but you have to keep good, healthy, clean water parameters so as to place as little stress on the fish as possible.
     
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    Can you post a pic?
     
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    all the other fish are looking super healthy, but i'll check parameters this afternoon...
     
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    If it's accompanied by occasional spasms as if the fish is try to shake something off its head, then you're looking at flukes. There would also be some slight blotches on the skin?
     
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    its important to get parameters posted here as there are a few things that could cause this..

    nitrate is one of them, disease or diet being another... a picture will most definatley help in the identification but we need the history to rule out assumptions and make an educated guess...
     
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    will upload pics tomorrow when i'm at work....

    @ Mudshark, it could be that, every couple of days he does this quick spasm swim thing tho shake of this slime membrane like stuff off his entire body...
    If it is flukes, what can i do to fix?
     
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    have you got cleaner shrimps in the system?
     
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    Flukes are not usually lethal. They are small parasites that dig into the fishes gills, under membranes and scales. They are extremely difficult to eradicate as there are so many different strains. FW dips can help, but usually not cure as the critters dig in deep into the gills. Furthermore, the fish could bleed out if a heavy infestation lets go during the dip. As Leslie rightly pointed out, cleaner wrasse (doubt that you'll keep shrimp with a predator) will help to keep the problem to a minimum. It's very important to have good water parameters so that the fish can build up natural immunity. Please post these and a pic of the fish, as I'm worried about this layer of slime you're talking about.
     
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    Setup as follows...
    2 x 250L tanks running on same sump (200L) so same water ext only on tank predator and other full reef. Got cleaner shrimp and cleaner wrasse in reef tank and only the big lion and niger trigger in pred tank...
     
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    No3 40mg/l
    NO2 0mg/l
    Ca 360 mg/l

    PO4 0.5 mg/l

    KH 6
    Ph 7.8

    That's all i could test
     
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    it sound like the fish has ..cloudy pop eye..waterlife makes a product called myxazin...if been using it for over 10 years now in my mixed reef...for ws and bs and when intrudusing new stock...it will cure your fish ...just follow the instructions to the t...as it gets worst the fish will start to stress white spot will apear and you dont want that..
     
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    Sorry Landu, I'm not familiar with those units. Most of my tests are in ppm. It doesn't look way out. The ph is a little low, but not going to cause any problems. For the sake of your corals, you'll need to start doing salinity tests. salinity has a nasty habit of creeping up or down for no apparent reason. The main thing that you should watch, is that your parameters, remain stable.

    Do a search on the net to look for the symptoms that your fish is presenting. If you can take a very high res, good focus picture of the problem, we may be able to help.
     
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    BEst i could get, this morning some white spots appeared, so i'm leaning very much toward that...the link belindamotion posted gave me some good guidelines aswell, thanks....

    Which of the sponsors would be able to express ship me some Phosphate remover and myxazin???
     
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    Cool.... glad that you got somewhere. Thanks Belindamotion.
     
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    What do the pics look like though? Whitespot or eye popping something else???
     
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