What wave controller and wave makers?

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  1. 2balive

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    I am starting a new nano. It is a Boyu HS-60. The DT is 100l and the filter around 28l, total volume 128l

    Want to keep LPS and some SPS, one day a nemi

    Will have a circulation pump of around 1300l.

    Now looking at a wave controller and wave makers. To many options.

    What will work in a tank this size, without blowing everything around.

    Was looking at the Redsea Wave Master Pro and the Boyo WM4 controller.

    Some questions:


    • How many wave-makers is best/good for a tank this size. Is 4 better than 2 or overkill?

    • Is a "night mode" necessary/good? (PS. never realized the sea was calm at night, where does this come from?)

    • Worked out that I need around total of 4000 l/h in the tank on top of the return pump, is this overkill for this tank?

    Any recommendations on type/brand would be great and where I can buy from?
     
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  3. Tony

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    A single vortech mp10 will do a nice job. It's got all the bells and whistles you need and is nice and small so it doesnt look bulky on your tank. Night mode is up to you. The sea does technically get calmer at night but I just use night mode to save a bit of electricity. Not sure in CT who had one but there are tons of sponsors
     
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    Vortech MP10

    Easier to set it at lower power output for example 20% if it is too strong.
     
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    2balive Thread Starter

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    1 or 2?

    Will two small pumps give me better and/or more random flow than one pump of the same size as the two combined?

    Can one achieved the same flow dynamics with one as two in the tank?
     
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    What about the tunze nano streams? @George will be able to help you with the specs
     
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    + 1 TUNZE 6055 nano streem with a 9072 controller ;)
     
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    If you have a four+ digit budget, then the Tuze or the Vortech is the way to go...

    If however, like me, you have three and less digit budget, then go for the JBJ Ocean Pulse Duo Wave Maker controller. They go for about R380 (I have a new one on sale in the For Sale Forums for less though...;))

    Then just add the Bouyo WM01 or WM02 wave pumps, which will give you great flow in system like that, at a fraction fo the cost compared to Vortech and tunze.

    They are dead silent, you do not even hear a click. Not as controllable though as a vortech, but beggars cant be choosers unfortunately.
     
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    Where do you get those controllers Jaco, how do they work and what pumps are decent for them?
     
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    Yes spill the beans where do you steal these from :p
     
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    These controller come standard it seems with the new 28g JBJ Nano's, as the tank has two pumps inside as a return.

    However, Exotic Pets sells them as seperate units as well. I used this controller on two normal SunSun pumps, and they worked fine, but logic will dictate they wont last forever as they are not wave pumps. That is why I suggest wave pumps, and the cheapest I know if is the Bouyo's.

    This pump has a 10 second - 6 minute intermittent setting.

    Here is a pic:

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    Really nice, silent and easy to use, but no where near as advanced as the vortechs and tunze's. I would not run this wave maker on larger aquariu, but they are ideal for nano's (what they where built for...) :)
     
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    2balive Thread Starter

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    I may just take you up on this, just doing a bit more research.


    Looking at the SEIO Electronic Controller it has a BIG note saying - For models M1100, M1500 & M2600 only.

    These babies will blow my tank away if I add two. Does this means that it will not work with the M250, M620 and M820?

    I also assume that I can use the Boyu WM01 and/or the WM02 with this controller?
     
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    Len you also need to look at the actual size of the pump in your tank - you dont want a huge pump taking up a lot of space.
     
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    Yes Len. The JBJ version has no "ONLY USE" warnings on it. Of course it has a max output etc. so you cannot run 100Amp pump on it (lol) but the Boyu and SunSun's work well, and they are not that big either. Not as small as the Tunze Nanostreams, but at least not too bulky like the Seio's.

    The WM 01 and WM 02 will work fine.
     
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    Len just a little advice. A wave maker is not the end all and be all. You can get great random flow wil just a few sunsuns. Just point them against the glass, eachother from opposide sides of the tank, or towards the surface, and you can get some great flow.
    I ran my tank for a year befor i added a wave maker, and even then it was more for asthetics than to improve functionality.
     
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    Yes, agreed with Butcherman. It is not to say that without it you cant keep marines... I must however say that the change in currents did help a bit with detritus in my tank that would otherwise just stay at one place, where flow areas were more linear.

    I would even suggest having a wave maker with other pumps, as you just "stir" the water flow patterns a bit.
     
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    Shortlist

    Yip, this is why I don't like the SEIO, the pumps looks like bricks (although it actually stick out less then the ball type). If I go with it I would use 2 x Seio Super Flow M620.

    Does anyone know if the small SEIO M range ones works with it?:confused1:

    Do you mean it will work fine on the SEIO controller? Will it deal with the varying current/voltage (not sure how they do it). Worried that I will blow the controller if I hook another pump up to it :confused1:

    Yes, I agree that it is not absolutely needed, but I loved the effect it created in the tanks I have seen. Cost is also not prohibitive compared to the investment in livestock.

    Funny enough, the pause feature is also a big pluss for me. Found that my fish sitters often forget to turn the pumps off before feeding or on after feeding. (never me :whistling:)

    So the shortlist is:


    Red Sea Wavemaster Pro
    Pros​
    Channels upgrade potential
    Nice preset options
    Nite mode
    Any pump
    Soft start to protect pumps.
    Looks very, very nice, high quality​
    Cons​
    Switch pumps off and only get half of installed capacity
    Price, oh price ​

    JBJ Pulse Due Wave Maker
    Pros​

    Any pump
    Looks OK, fair quality
    Very, very good price ​
    Cons​
    Switch pumps off and only get half of installed capacity
    No night mode
    No feeding mode

    Seio Electronic Controller
    Pros​

    Keep pumps at min 50%, get more total flow
    Feeding mode
    Looks nice, high quality ​
    Cons​
    No night mode
    Only Seio pumps (still wonder if this is a marketing ploy)
    Not sure if this works with the small M series
    Price

    BOYU Wavemaker WM-4
    Pros​

    Feeding mode
    Nite mode
    Can use other pumps
    Price not bad for what you get ​
    Cons​
    Switch pumps off and only get half of installed capacity
    Ugly, will have to hide it
    Quality?

    Am I missing one?
     
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    tunze 7092 :tt2:

    pros

    feeding mode
    multipile operating modes
    auto tune function
    can run off 12v dc
    can run wave box
    will outlast you and your tank

    cons

    only run tunze controlable pumps
    expensive
     
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    JBJ Ocean Pulse Duo

    Pro's:
    Cheapest controller around
    Can run any pump from it within the amperage and wattage range
    Silent
    Compact
    Very easy to operate
    Can run with SunSun, Tunze, Seio etc pumps. But pump lifetime determined by pump type. Therefore wavemaker pumps like Boyu WM01 and WM02 pumps advised.

    Con's:
    Not controllable (modes) - only intermittent on/off per pump
     
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    Yes thats how we all feel.:lol: but with tunze equipment its definatly a long term invertment in quality equipment:thumbup:
     
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