What species of conch is this?

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  1. Achilles

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    i know it's a conch but i would like to know exact species if anyone has a good idea, my suspicion is maybe a fighting conch(strombus alatus) but not sure



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    Not all conch's would be good for a reef some are predatory others eat detritus and algae
     
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    is it local?
    If yes then I can ask my snail auntie to help you out.
     
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    Not sure where it is from otherwise it would help narrow it down alot
     
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    yes a lot

    closest I got so far is Pleuroploca Trapezium
    http://www.gastropods.com/3/Shell_3333.shtml

    they are active predators on tube worms, vermitids and mollusc, especially bi-valves.

    That is if I got the right one.

    Let me get my snail auntie in.
     
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    Fighting conch - Strombus alatus
     
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    IT does look similar to the fighting conch but RiaanP does have a point the eye kink isnt there not sure how variable the shells are colouring wise it looks like a fighting conch but on the page Belinda linked there are 2 different fighting conch colours.

    Also it does look different to the first snail you mentioned though RiaanP, ill try get better pics

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    Is that a dinner plate? They are rather big for a tank.

    I know my first ID is not spot on. That is the closest I got from my books.

    Any idea from where in the world they come from? That will help a lot.
     
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    No its a small saucer not dinner plate, wish i knew the LFS had them labelled as turbo snails so i cant trust they would know where they come from, i am loath to add them to my system without knowing what species they are dont want a predatory one in my system plus some conch's can live for 10 years plus
     
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    [FONT=&quot]Pugilina cochlidium cochlidium fulva (f)

    Deshayes, G.P. Shell size 80 - 110 mm Philippines
    Taxonomic Information
    Class GASTROPODA ORTHOGASTROPODA
    Order NEOGASTROPODA
    SuperFamily BUCCINOIDEA
    Family MELONGENIDAE MELONGENINAE


    They are predatory carnivores, feeding primarily on bivalves[/FONT]
     
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    Wow I must say it does look like that Riaan just as well I didn't add them as they were so similar to fighting conch but are predatory it seems plus I have clams
     
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    Now, this will be a strange request, but:
    When they die, I want them. Coming down to Cape town early December. Will collect them for my snail Auntie if you do not mind.
     
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    I am sure Oceansun has the same snails..are they good or bad...?
     
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    bad.
    that is if my ID is correct.
     
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    Pretty sure your Id is correct RiaanP , was hoping it wasnt but they are similar to the fighting conch were it not for the differences you pointed out, these certainly seem to be the predatory ones and they will eat barnacles and clams with their long probocis the common name spiral melongena.

    I spoke to the LFS and will be swapping them for more "reef friendly" snails, if you want i will keep one so you can have a specimen for your snail Auntie i have 10 of them in Quarantine.

    http://rmbr.nus.edu.sg/nis/bulletin2009/2009nis63-67.pdf
     
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    Shawn please insist that the LFS informs other reefers wanting to buy. Could cause havoc in an unsuspecting reefers tank.
     
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