What should I have in my sump??????

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  1. HoboHoppy

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    Hi Guys

    Need some assistance again. I was chatting to someone the other day and they said that I should remove what I have in my sump and replace it with only LIVE rock.

    My sump currently has bio balls and ceramic rings in it. They said that the bio balls could cause nitrate hikes.

    Is this what I should do or should I leave it the way it is?


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  3. shaunn

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    If its working for you leave it, different things work differently on different tanks only change it if its not working for you
     
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    I have a BUNCH of live rock in my display and I cannot fathom how the little bit extra I can squeeze into my sump makes a material difference. I did replace most of my ceramic rings with a DSB refugium which grows calupra. This did make a material difference.
     
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    I am not sure that my sump was designed for a DSB maybe I should look into it.
     
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    for a an effective dsb you need about 30% of your display the dsb ,will be held between 2 pieces of glass ie a glass box @RiaanP can explain more about DSB's
     
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    Even if you cannot get a great DSB running, I would still look at growing some algae on a reverse light cycle in the sump. I guess the "nitrate factory" stigma comes from the amount of detritus that accumulates on the ceramic rings/ bioballs as this eventually breaks down to nitrate. In all the freshwater tanks I kept, I always kept these in bags , took them out and and rinsed them in the tank water I had just removed when doing water changes. This way the bacteria does not get shocked to death but the detritus gets rinsed away.
     
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    I was thinking of making this and placing it in my sump with a light as suggested.

     
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    My tank was originally designed as a fish only tank but I am starting to get attached to corals :) so need to manage my Nitrates.
     
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    only if you are going Sps do you really need to worry about keeping ur Nitrates in perfect sps require your Nitrates to be very low or almost 0 ,also depending how much ur skimmer is taking out as well as how often you do water changes many different factors in keeping corals but imo it easy to keep corals than fish.
     
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    OK that's great thanks for the advice. let me give it a few months and see how the few corals I have go. Then I can make a call. Just the guy I spoke to the other day got me puzzling about my sump.
     
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    Simple put it is as follows;
    Bioballs will house nitrifying bacteria, but where is the denitrifying bacteria?

    Answer: Inside DSB and/or rocks and/or substrate and/or a reactor with appropriate filter media.
     
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    Just keep the bioballa and ceramic rings clean and clear of detritus and it is fine.
     
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    Post a picture of your sump, so that we can see what you got to work with.
     
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    I would look at orca bio cubes for your sump and maybe cheato.
     
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    So here is a pic of my sump. Not the clearest picture. If you need a clearer one I can only sort it out on Monday as I am off Hunting and :peroni: drinking for the weekend. :)
    Thanks for the help guys.

    Sump.jpg
     
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    whatever you do, remember to switch off the return pump before disturbing those ceramic rings.

    Even with all the fog in your house, I can wee the settlement.
     
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    I actually threw 5lt of sea sand in with the rings, I got it from some remote beach in Moz. Thought it might be a good idea.

    Ps its not a good hot box without some smoke!

    Also should I put a light in my sump?

    sump2.jpg
     
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    only if you want a refugium, else its not needed. Unless you want some light to see what you are doing while maintaining the tank. But can leave the light off when not needed.
     
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