What can I use from the sea

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  1. CJT

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    Hi Guys

    I am going to Uvongo from the 10th to the 15th of June and I want to know what I could bring back for my tank?
     
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    Bud first thing, please get a permit. Second thing, please only take out what you plan and are capable of keeping. If you dont know what you catch or what it is. Leave it be. Remember once you remove a creature from it's habitat you take responsibility for the remainder of it's life. Don't shorten it.

    Collecting is fun and hope you find many species you planned for. Do it responsibly and enjoy. :thumbup:
     
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    Also if you take any live stock, you will need a bucket and a battery operated airpump. You need to have permits, also people will phone the authorities when they see you taking stuff :whistling:
     
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    I already know about the permits etc and that you can get them from the post office I think they are R70 each I have read up on this already I was looking more for advice as what will actually make it back to JHB alive ect and where near Uvongo to go and also my tank is not even 6 months old yet so I was thinking more of stuff like snails crabs etc that will be ok to put in the tank.
     
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    Here's what I would take if I were going to the sea:

    - Hermit Crabs
    - Nerite Snails (keep in mind Hermits will probably eat these for their shells)
    - Cushion Stars
    - "Klipvissie"
    - Convict Tangs (depending on tank size, I would take 3 to 5 smallish ones. Remember tangs in general are agro towards other tangs when not all introduced at the same time).
    - Small longspine urchin or Priest Hat/Tuxedo urchin (Once again depending on tank size, as they graze algae. Also feed them Nori if you don't have enough algae in your tank. Keep in mind they like Corralline and can move rockwork around.)
    - Zoa's and Palys. Only take smallish colonies, no point in taking mats of the stuff. Keep them in their own bucket, they release palyotoxin so wear gloves when handling them.
    - Small "anemones". Not sure what they're called but you'll usually find them on mussel shells.
    - Soft corals (Once again not too much, the "xenia" type of softie is difficult to keep thriving)
    - Various Macro algae (Only take what is attached to small loose pieces of rocks.
    - Clean "live sand" (Will most likely add a variety of small critters and bristle stars to you tank. Also looks nice.)
    - Empty shells (for your Hermits as they grow)

    Things I would rather leave:
    - Anything you're not sure what it is and how to properly take car of.
    - Other anemones (someone I know collected what looks like a green carpet anemone, I'd say a big no no)
    - Too many mussels, they'll die and fowl your water.
    - Very big hermits, unless you keep them in your sump because they knock things over. Same for very big Urchins (especially the short spine ones)
    - Eels
    - Groupers (relatively easy to catch, but get very big and will eat everything else)
    - Damsels (Pretty when small, but grow into dull brown fish with VERY bad attitudes).
    - Octopus (Needs specialist system to keep well fed and prevent escape and getting stuck in pumps, etc.)
    - No hard corals (Sure you've read it's illegal, but don't be tempted).
    - Sand Dollars/Sea Biscuits (very tempting if you're lucky enough to see them, but also illegal.
    - Butterlfy fish (they'll eat your corals) and other fish with specialised feeding needs.

    I'd also say get yourself the Two Oceans book. It has a detailed list of SA species find on our coastline. This will definitely help you to ID things and make sure you don't take illegal things.

    Enjoy and keep us updated on your trip and collections!
     
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    Thanks Chas I was wondering can we use normal sea water in our tanks or is that a bad idea I was thinking of bringing some back.
     
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    Hi CJT. The permit cost like 75 bucks @ the post office, so really worthit to get get one and last a year. Someone must correct me if I'm wrong and this is only from hearing, but you can use sea water for your tank(just put a batery operated air pump in to keep it aerated) and before adding it to your tank put in a heater, a flow pump, and a airpump to aerate water well. Enjoy your time there, and dont return without pics.....
     
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    First thing, go prepared. Must take everything you might need.

    • Big plastic bucket
    • heater
    • extension cord with enough plug points
    • small 300l/h circulation pump - for while you are there
    • battery air pump, for the drive back
    • extra water for water change at Harrismith
    • permit
    You are going down for 5 days. If you start collecting on day one, you must be able to do water changes 2 times a day. And you need RO water to maintain your salinity. So add your refractometer to the list. And thermostat. See water tends to be colder than the water in the bucket.

    Do not keep zoa and button polyps in the same bucket than your other critters.

    This is my collection setup
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    How old is your tank?

    Dont be tempted to take things just becasue you can. Overstocking your tank too quickly will cause problems.
     
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    Cool Theo I will definately get the permit.

    @ RiaanP I will probably only collect on the day before I leave as I do not want to risk anything happening to anything I collect.

    @459 see my previous post with regards to your question I mainly want to get snails, crabs etc not really fish etc

    Would one be able to get the permit at a post office in JHB or would it be better to get it at a post office at the coast as I wonder if anyone in JHB will know what I am talking about
     
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    They know...
    Part of the fishing license
     
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    Thanks Riaan I will go to the post office tomorrow then.
     
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