Vortech Placement advice on a 3x1x1 room divider

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  1. Nemeziz_za

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    Hi All,

    Im in the process of adding 3 x MP60`s to my tank to compliment my 2 x Tunze 6255`s WIDE FLOW 18,000l/h

    the tank is a 3,000 x 1,000 x 1,000 viewable from three sides.

    There is of course a complication that the 4th side is my overflow and the Vortechs can not be placed there as its a wet overflow and the vortech dry sides are not waterproof :p

    So Im thinking 3 x MP60 on the short end viewing pane in a row above middle of the pane towards the bracing.

    and placing the 2 x Tunze on the opposite short pane with the magnets of the tunze inside the overflow.

    Ill try add a pic so you can see what the overflow looks like.
     
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    Short side overflow

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    ideally you do not want to add the MP60 on the 3 viewable sides.
    Correct?

    So in theory it would have been nice if the dry side was inside the overflow box. So I would build a dry box inside the overflow box to mount the dry side. Even using a deep Tupperware tub from your wife's collection would work. Just do not let her catch you taking it out...
     
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    yes so add a R12k pump in a tuppaware hoping that it wont get wet or the electricity trip or worse
     
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    Or build a glass box to hold it.
    Tupperware box is for the test run.

    Obvious that the overflow in front of the box needs to be lifted, and that the box overall sides are higher than what would happen if and when you flood the overflow.

    But as the box would not be to the bottom, and do not need to be of 10mm glass, you can get away with thinner pieces.

    The tupperware tub is to explain better. Ice cream tub or glass box or any other option or suitable thing that will be deep enough so that the Vortech do not pull air. Basically you make part of the overflow a Dry Dock.
     
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    Have to agree with @dallasg on this one as it would also make it look ugly if Eugene had to use tupperware... I'm sure there is another way...
     
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    Only issue I could imagine would be a heat buildup in there - for the pumps sake not the tank. A fan would take care of it but just something to take into consideration.
     
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    Other than that, he have to sacrifice the viewing panels and place the pump on the opposite side facing back at the overflow box. No point in putting the MP60 on any of the long sides facing the opposite panel that is 1m away. But that would mean that the pumps are in the passage side where people walk past. With the added rick of being bumped. Plus giving up the clean look of the small panel and the look as you approach from the kitchen.
     
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    coming back to change the overflow box somehow. Need to change it in a way that either the overflow front is cut and a "tube" fitted so that the MP60 sits on the real back end of the tank. Very much the way Idol Marine does fit Vortech pumps on their slimline overflows. But as this is a tank that is running, shutting it down to replace the overflow is a big task.

    Then the last option is to build dry boxes inside the current overflow. At least the dry boxes can be built without draining the tank.

    BTW, The same size tank is running at Dorry Pets with just 2 MP60. pumps. Both fitted to the overflow side. But there the box is not the full width of the short panel.
     
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    There is nothing wrong with having pumps sticking out from the glass. They're not exactly obtrusive like a lounge chair. Eugene stay away from ideas that will cause restrictive air flow around the pumps. The mp60 has open air vents that cool it's inner workings. You could alternate mp60 on each side of your panes and use your profilux linked Vortech controller to control when each pump will operate. Stepping their flow down the tank.
     
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    Yes, great idea, but at TIME OF BUILD. It won't work for Eugene unless he wants to shut down the whole system.
     
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    I know that from the beginning the key design of the tank was to have 3 viewing panels without any wires or pumps visible on the viewing panels.

    So a catch 22.
     
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    Thanks guys for the input...

    The closing of the overflow chamber compartment was an idea I explored but its fraught with complications and modifications to force it to work. So I think Im going to stay away from this as a consideration for now unless something truly simplistic comes to surface.
     
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    why not scrap the vortech and rather use tunzes
    You can mount the tunzes inside the tank by fixing a piece of glass inside the top and mounting the pumps underneath the glass with the magnetic side on top

    Sounds a bit confusing but not sure what the top of the tank looks like , but should work with some planning

    Nice thing about the tunzes as you know , they don't have a dry side
     
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    Eugene is actually scrapping the Tunze for the vortech.
     
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    I understand that was the plan , but if you can't get the vortechs to work, then what other option does he have
     
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