Vertex Alpha 170 vs RO XP-1000SSS

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  1. Nism0

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    Hi everyone, I am looking to upgrade my Aqua Medic Turboflotor multi SL as it is not skimming nicely and needs daily adjustments. So here are two which i think would be a decent improvement. Your thoughts and comments would be appreciated. Tank: is about 300litres with about 30kg LR and a DSB, 4 Chromis, 1 Clown and a Coral beauty. I feed flakes twice a day and coral food twice a week.

    Reef Octopus Cone Sump Saver 1000 (XP-1000SSS)

    Pump: Bubble Blaster 1000
    Air Intake: 500 LPH
    Max Flow: 950 LPH
    Pump Power: 15 W
    Foot Print (mm): 190 x 250
    Product Size (mm): D: 230 x H: 505

    Link: Detailed Product View


    Vertex Alpha 170


    Pump: Red Dragon

    Air Intake: ??

    Max Flow: 1000 to 1200 LPH

    Pump Power: 18 W
    Foot Print (mm): 231 x 425

    Product Size (mm): D: 220 x H: 575



    Link: http://www.vertexaquaristik.com/Pro...lpha170/tabid/152/language/en-US/Default.aspx


    Which one is the smart choice?
     
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    butcherman Moderator MASA Contributor

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    price?
     
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    Hi Butcherman,

    Yes, that is a big factor. And unfortunately i do not have exact figures on the prices.
    I hope @Submariner could give me a good price on the Vertex. He last advertised one for R4500. Hopefully that price is current. I saw the RO for roughly the same price at Dory this weekend.
     
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    Tsr skimmer offers

    Hi Nismo

    T.S.R. had a second hand Alpha 170 for R4500 unfortunately sold it yesterday

    We can offer you the following

    VERTEX ALPHA 170

    FOOTPRINT 235MM X 380MM

    AIR INTAKE 1200 LPH

    HEIGHT 585 MM

    RED DRAGON 1000 PUMP

    18 WATTS

    2 YEAR WARRANTY

    R5900

    JNS SK-2

    FOOTPRINT 330MM X 200MM

    AIR INTAKE 720 LPH

    HEIGHT 580MM

    SICCE SYNCRA 2 PUMP

    22 WATTS

    2 YEAR WARRANTY

    R3500



     
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    Go for the JNS dude.
    Got one from @Submariner last week and works like a charm.... :)
     
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  7. Nism0

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    There will be a PM goin ghis way quite soon. :)
     
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    There is nothing like a vertex just go and look at the quality
     
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    Yea at twice the price of a JNS ......
     
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    Nism0 Thread Starter

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    Thats the problem. If you guys had to choose between 2 Illumilux units and a JNS skimmer, or 1 Illumilux unit and a Vertex skimmer, how do you choose :confused1:
     
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    Well that should be easy.
    I don't think you can run a tank on one Illumilux unit...
    I have four of them over my frag tank.....
     
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    get the vertex and 1 LED unit, you can always get another unit later on. Go for the best skimmer you can afford and I dont think there are any better skimmers than the vertex in SA at the moment
     
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    That must be a VERY happy frag tank :thumbup:
    I am running T5's at the moment so the one unit will be adding to that with the aim of later on replacing the T5's completely. Its only a 300l system so 2 Ilumilux units should be enough. I am not planning on having a SPS dominated tank.

    Oy Vey, now can anyone give advice on how to handle a disgruntled wife :whistling:
     
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    Vertex is great, but its not gonna perform double the JNS.....you havn't said what corals you may be keeping?
     
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    +1 on vertex skimmer with 1 light unit, i would have gotten a bigger vertex, and run some old t5 lighting (if you have some laying around) and upgraded to led at a later stage.
     
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    if you want to do it properly and once off i would go at this in stages,, get a solid skimmer (with good "LOCAL" support - just had to say that :) and look at lighting a little later down the line..

    i dont know the JNS, but the Alpha is something else...i have one im trying to get going i just have to build a sump for it to be able to fire it up..

    Perhaps go T5 in the beginig and spend the cash on the skimmer.. thats was just my way thinking.. tackle the project in phases and you will get to the end result in time.....

    its all about priorities and what is needed 1st IMO a skimmer superceeds lighting, as lighting can be substituted in the begining as you wond have extreeme demand from the first species introduced...
     
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    leslie hempel Moderator MASA Contributor

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    good point arch, we tend to overshoot without knowing the requirement,

    be wary of fad chasing.. look for solid and supported product though...
     
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    Softies mostly and maybe some LPS. As many different Zoas as i can get my hands on. I have a red Digitata which will stay as long as it survives but i wont go out and purchase any SPS. That doesnt mean i want it to die either :p The aim of the tank is to have as much colour and movement in the corals as possible with a few fish.

    But with that said, i have only been in the hobby a few moths and my priorities may change. What i really want is a good skimmer that wont need my attention every night to get it skimming.

    Another consideration is to maybe get a bigger JNS (Or equivalent) for the same price as the Alpha
     
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    I agree Leslie, The whole LED thing has got me giddy as a schoolgirl and that could lead to rash decisions.

    When you say LOCAL support, which brands do you feel have the best local support and offer a quality skimmer? You can pm me that answer if you like :whistling:

    The T5's i have now are running fine so i will keep them. The plan is to get the filtration working well. Better skimmer and add a ATS.

    The Reef Octo Cone Sump Saver 1000 or even the 2000 maybe?
     
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    How can you say that??????

    George
     
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    My suggestion is go and speak to @Submariner personally at TSR about the different skimmers. This will also give you a chance to go look at the quality of both skimmers in person. I would choose the JNS as they are reasonably priced and use Sicce Syncra Silent pumps which are very good pumps.
     
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