vermetid snail

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  1. Stevo101

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    Vermetid snail

    Hi i want to know if any one has these ?
    Do i keep them?
    Do i kill them?
    will it kill my coral?
    best way to kill them?








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    Don't be lazy, do you homework before posting here.

    As if it wasn't enough that vermetids hurt corals by impeding their skeletal growth and overall survival, they also aid corals' algal competitors.

    There are no proven predators for vermetid so reefkeepers should try to manually eradicate them when spotted. While vermetid snails don't always cause immediately observable harm to reef tanks (especially in small populations), it's not a good idea to ignore them because they can multiply like the plague and become a big problem. Reefkeepers report hit-and-miss success with biological control using mithrax crabs, hermit crabs, and coris, halichoeres, and six-line wrasses. Sure-fire methods to kill vermetid include covering the ends of their tube openings with superglue gel, reef-safe epoxy, and injecting caustic chemicals such as HCl (muriatic acid) and NaOH (lye), the latter being a better option around calcareous live rock.
     
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    i have done some homework @r0ckf1re , you have copy pasted a post i have already read thank you.

    i am looking for peoples personal opinions on this matter out of their experience.

    i keep reading things that say kill them and then right after things that say keep them.

    i find posts that say kill them this way.. then others that say noooo do not even attempt that.

    so here i am asking people for their own experiences , i didn't want a huge post that would bore people before they got half way through it, so i made it simple....
     
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    I had a few that irritated corals. I just used superglue gell to seal up the opening. Problem solved.
     
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    That's a bit rude! We may as well shut the forum down if we're going to discourage people from asking questions. The entire purpose of the forum is to encourage people to ask questions and get answers, not to be rude to them.
     
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    I have broken off the as much of the pipe as i can and then i closed it up with putty , hope i didmt damage corals too much
     
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    I tried super glue and it was hit and miss. I used a small screwdriver and drilled into the snail where I speculated the body mass was. This worked 100%. Remember to thoroughly clean the screwdriver.
     
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    Violent but effective!
     
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    I tried to drive a sharp object in there but the monti is so hard i couldnt get to it properly , it chose a strong place to make its home
     
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    Just grind it in, even live rock can be drilled with a screwdriver.
     
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    If it is inside the coral you can break it apart if not carefull.
     
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    If I find any I break them with a side cutter or screw driver and let the fish enjoy the snail,extra food.
     
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    they really ruin the beautiful look of my corals , glad to be getting rid of them , will keep you updated on this.. :)
     
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    I actually dont mind them unless they are posing a serious threat to something. They make the tank look more natural and watching them going about their business can be interesting. It most likely wont kill and entire colony of montipora.
    Id be more worried about that xenia growing so close to other corals.
     
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    yea i have worried about that , not sure how to control that though

    they moved there from a separate rock ages ago and i didn't think they would thrive like that ... but ea recently they starting swelling to that huge size

    any suggestions?

     
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    You need to trim them constantly. Or give them their own spot where they cant smother other corals
     
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    I bought a frag of Xenia. I now have a tank of Xenia. :m34:
     
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    oh nooooo

    ill frag some of this xenia off and then staring using lemon juice to lower the numbers
     
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    guess who doesn't care if you putty his little hole closed , Violent screwdriver killing it then.
     
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    I have hundreds of vermetids, initially I assumed they were some kind of tube worm and I just let them be.

    Manually eradicating them seems like it will take forever and some are in impossible to reach places. I've read on some other forums that sometimes they just disappear eventually if you can starve them (by having almost no suspended particles in the water column from heavy mechanical filtration and target feeding).

    Has anyone tried or had success like this and does it make sense that it could work, or do you think i just need to get in and start drilling?
     

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