Using sugar to lower nitrate levels

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  1. greenie

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    Hi,

    I have read that some people use sugar to lower nitrate levels. Was just wondering whether this is true, what will the long term effects be?
     
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  3. PeterL

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    Let's put it this way, I personally have never heard of it and there is a reason you eat your main meal and desert separately...sugar and salt just doesn't mix so lekker - tastes pretty bad ;)

    Seriously though, I have never heard about that theory, I will tag along and see where this goes.
     
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    Sugar, Vinegar and Vodka are all sources of carbon for bacteria, it will work in the same way as the Vodka dosing method.
    Although Vodka seems to be the most popular method to add carbon.
    Before adding any of the above please do the research first.
     
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    Thanks for the feedback. Will check what they have to say.
     
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    are there any links available for vodka dosing?
     
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    It helps. And makes your skimmer operate like a beast. But can also cause algal blooms. So add very little to start with. A teaspoon per 100 l or so and go from there
     
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    Thanks Boegie, great article.. :thumbup:
     
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    Another interesting fact is that every different carbon source favors a certain strain of bacteria. Thus in order to facilitate all the different strains of bacteria, and to avoid one strain becoming dominant, you should add various bacteria sources (For example MB7 and stability) whilst also adding all the different carbon sources (Sugar, vodka, vinegar). The different bacterias and carbon sources can be changed every month.
     
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    Well said buddy...But people need to do thr own research as to what will and will not work for them...

    I have stopped using MB7 as it was fueling GHA...So i am just using stability for now. Yes i dose sugar as a solid carbon source and white vinegar too...I have been doing this for over a year now...With great results...
     
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    the carbon sources will fuel GHA if used to much, start off with about 0.5ml a week, then play around, i mix all 3
     
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    As already stated its a form of carbon dosing and is probably
    best used along with vodka & vinegar.
    Unlike straight vodka dosing though , the dosing amounts are not readily available and depend very much on your specific system.

    I wouldnt recomend going that rout as there can be some negative side effects if you are overdosing, such as diatom blooms , cyno blooms , . . .etc. If you are running a dsb i would recomend carbon dosing either.

    Remember , that carbon dosing helps with bacteria production which relay on the nutrients you are trying to get rid of, once you have. . .
    They then latch on to something else . . Hence. . Cyno.

    Hope this helps.
     
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    Greenie - ONLY if you dose the correct amount, and strains of bacteria with the sugar.

    So - PLEASE PLEASE before you go out and dose sugar - please read up more about the "neo-zeo" method - and about dosing Vodka.....
     
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    In my opinion for now you should stick to vodka until there is more information available about sugar and vinegar.
     
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    so is any one using only sugar , I have been doing it now for a week with awesome results , until yeterday when I totally totally overdosed and am sitting now with a bacterial bloom, would like to read up more on sugar dosing any good articals and methods?
     
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    The issue with sugar dosing is its a very strong carbon source- far stronger than vodka. SnS why dont you add a teaspoon or two to your vodka rather?
     
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    Monti , you telling me , woke up to the tank completely white a yesterday and still murky today!!

    i recon i really just over did it , but all livestock and corals are ok, i added 10 spoons of sugar hahahaha

    i was reading and it actually said i was suposed to add 1/10 of a teaspoon per 25gal

    ag well we all learn
     
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    Is there any merit to dosing ethanol? Isn't that what we are trying to do when dosing vodka? But just use 40% ethanol.
     
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    Let SnS's experience be a warning to ppl thinking about using carbon sources, SnS is an very expoerience and knowlegable reefer, and i am sure he will endorse this warning.... research it properly and start with very small amounts !
     
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