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  1. Nemo321

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    Hey Masa peeps:thumbup:

    I got a Scopus tang and a convict surgeon and a regal surgeon and a sailfin tang and I was just wondering why do they fight when you introduce another family of the surgeons they attack the new one.
    like yesterday I bought a Powder Blue Tang and my sailfin tang and scopus attacked it and I had to give the powder blue back :eek::eek::eek:
     
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    what other surgeons can I keep with these guys ?
     
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    try a large yellow tang they are quite aggressive them selfs
     
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    most fish of the same species, mostly tangs, will fight with the same or similar species, conspecifics, the best way to add a fish is early morning or with lights out and place a mirror to distract the fish.

    its usually a territory thing
     
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    my yellow tang attack any thing that is remotely looks yellow, and the clowns attack any thing orange or red
     
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    @dallasg I have turned off the lights for a whole night and I covered the tank with a black towel and the next morning when I turned on the lights the Scopus and the Sailfin was attacking the Powder Blue..
    do you think it would make a difference if I have to get a bigger Powder Blue ??
     
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    dallasg Moderator MASA Contributor

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    it might help what size tank?
     
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    @dallasg there's lots of hiding places
     
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    try rearranging your aquascaping
     
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    you already have 4 tangs in a 1.2m tank.
    Scopus
    convict surgeon
    regal surgeon
    sailfin tang

    No ways that you can add another, Even if they are small now, they will grow and that tank will be too small. Are you upgrading early next year?

    You can add tangs from different sun families of tangs. Scopa and sailfin yellow purple and gem are all in the same direct sub family. Regal is another subfamily.
     
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    look at this wikipedia link

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    look at the first part of the name, example Zebrasoma generally you can keep one tang per family, so only one Zebasoma. You might be lucky with 2. Especially in your smaller system. Big systems can have more without issues, as the fish can swim away from each other.
     
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    or this page

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    Check on the right, there are 6 genera of tangs. check them out.
     
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    @RiaanP how bigger tank am I looking to build ??
     
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    tangs like length.
    minimum 1.5m, longer will be better.
     
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    Like Riaan said, tangs like length. They go into cruise control protecting their dinner table from intruders, which are other herbivours, such as tangs, angels, rabbitfish, even Zanclus. Given enough swim room and hiding places, one can socialise multiple tangs. Still, my tank is a bit larger than yours (over 1.5m) and I found 3 were the absolute max. At that time I had a Z. xanthurus, A. achilles and a Ct. sps. I now keep but one A. leucosternon in the same tank and doubt I could add another.

    As tangs are fine-skinned, ich-prone fish, stress should be minimalised and a good vegi-diet provided.

    cheers,

    Jamie
     
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    Tangs are very territorial as are most animals, which we are as well.
    I found achieving absolute saturation of usable oxygen with in my water best supports these small gilled fish.
    It reduces the stress and part of the reason for illogical hatred, if you could call it that. I turned a psycho powder blue which it was else where into an energetic relatively harmless fish in not time at all when putting it into my system.
    Temps between 24c and 25c supported by a large area of cascade waters does it nicely.
     
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