Urgent help needed Urgent help needed need bbs for mandrin

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  1. Dane G

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    Hey guys got a mandrin, and its not eating and my culture hasn't started to hatch yet so if anyone can help me out, she not super thin but I'm very concerned

    I have tried frozen mysis, lobster eggs soaked in entice she's not eating any, I am willing to pay
     
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    @Dane G feed it copods. that is one of the foods he will definitely eat. make sure it is live though. they dont take on frozen foods or anything like that, that easily.
     
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    bbs will hatch in 24 hours normally, if not you might be doing something wrong. all you need is a coke bottle with and air pump and some tubing. RO water and some of the bbs eggs with salt. most good LFS will stock them Aquarium depot bring them in.
     
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    What worked for me was to feed live brine shrimp for a couple of days then started mixing live with frozen brine, over a couple of days I slowly added more frozen than live which got ie used to the frozen. It then ate only frozen after that.
     
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    How long have you had the mandarine, was she always thin?
    If you watch the mandarine does it seem to be moving from spot to spot pecking at the rocks and sand? if so its eating the coppepods in your tank. and live brine will help fatten it up.
     
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    How much iverock is in your tank and how long has the tank been running? If you have plenty of liverock and the tank has been running for a while and is mature the mandarin will probably be fine for a while still until you can get live brine going.
     
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    Where in cape town do you live?

    I know panorama petshop has brine shrimp eggs and i think sam's also.
    Most of them should have it.
     
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    Hi everyone

    I have brine shrimp eggs ocean nutrition

    The hatchery I made is an inverted coke bottle and airstone the waters SG is 1.020 as recommended

    I had the tank almost three months it was running for a while before I bought it

    About 8kg of LR

    Yes the mandrin was alittle thin when I got her, but the LS told me she was eating frozen

    Had for three days and yes she is swimming around pecking on the LR, my magnet cleaner as a visible pod population crawling around on and in it(you can see the pods)

    I have made "pod piles" in the tank, rock piles that fish cannont get into so there's somewere for the pods to grow and reproduce

    I'm probably being paranoid, but I got the fish to prevent it starving
     
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    If this is the case i would not stress to much, get your bbs production up and running and feed that aswell.
     
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    Ok I will monitor her, I get very attached to my fish it would kill me if she doesn't make it, the brine culture has been going for about 20hours.
     
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    Thank you will try this
     
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    i fine bbs hatch between 20 and 36 hours dependant on many factors
    I also had a mandarine for 2 years weened him onto new era pellets from pods. lost him due to jumping out of tank!
     
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    The temp of the water for the brine shrimp needs to be around 25/26 degrees for them to hatch within 24 hours. If the water is colder then it takes longer. If you were closer then I could have supplied you with an abundance of bbs as I hatch 2 bottles fill every day :)
    I suspended the bottles in a 10L tank that has a heater and small flow pump to keep the water circulating. Works like a bomb!!
     
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    any chance of a pic please..?
     
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    Yes, when I get home I will take a pic.
     
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    I find by decapsulating the brine eggs the hatch rate will be higher & hatch time faster approx 8 hrs also less chance for diseases coming from the eggs.
     
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    Awesome I will start another culture and try this, the interwebs didn't say I needed to heat the water only that I needed a light source
     
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    You use bleach or something right? I will have to check youtube on how to do that
     
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    Yes 2/3 cup of RO soak eggs in the RO for an hour or so then add 1/3 regular bleech then stir until eggs turn orangy pink then rinse well until you can't smell the bleech anymore then add it to your hatchery.

    Honestly I just use my tank water to hatch the BBS the use a normal 60w light globe to shine on the culture 24/7 the heat from the globe will keep the culture warm enough.
     
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    Thanks for that info. I will give it a try.

    Depends how cold the room is. My house is quite cold so a light does not heat the water up enough. I do not use a light at all.
     
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