Tropical to Marine

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  1. AllyZone

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    Howzit guys

    Been on the forum for few months now contemplating going marine.

    Ive had my freshwater tank for years now and decided to convert my small tank to marine.

    Its a 3ft tank. No sump.

    I was thinking of using my Canister filter ( cascade 1600 ). Whats the views on putting rock in the filter?

    Another thing i was reading bout is gravel for marine. Do you have to use that? I have fine selica sand ( if thats how you spell it ).

    Got a skimmer. Not yet how im gonna connect that together.

    For the Durban guys.. Where do i buy all the blue and grey piping?

    any other hints for a new timer?
     
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  3. busanmarc

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    welcome
    i use a canister filter and no sump but you have to constantly clean the canister filter otherwise your nitrates go up
    i would not use the silica sand my friend always had diatom algae and unless its really fine bottom dwelling fish will hurt themselves
    good luck
     
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    skimmer is an important piece of equipment.
    Either hang on the back skimmer, or else you need to add a sump with in sump skimmer. But then you need to get the tank drilled and an overflow fitted. In the long run it is worthwhile.
     
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    So we just put the rock in the canister? no other filter media?

    How often would i have to clean?

    With freshwater ( 1.2 x 480 x 480 ) i clean once a month . sometimes longer...
     
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    In my personal experience dont even bother having an external filter. Before adding or doing anything rather do it right from the start. I also converted a freshwater to marine and had alot of problems where the water gas exchange did not happen sufficient due to me running only an external filter and a skimmer. This again as i state is my personal experience. Rather get yourself the tank drilled with an overflow and sump than have to redo everything over again. But trust me...its all worthwhile in the end...unfortunatly once you tasted saltwater you will never go back to tropical;)
     
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    Drilling a tank and adding another 3/2ft sump wont be expensive and as RiaanP said will be worth it in the long run

    All your heater and skimmers can go unseen in the sump. I would rather suggest using your canister as a media reactor just before a return to minimize detritus build up. You can run carbon, PO4 remover, matrix ect in it
     
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    Media reactor? PO4?

    Will make a list of all the stuff on saturday .. I no theres no Calcum reactor, ( Do i need it at the start??)

    Chiller??
     
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  10. Zandy

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    I would not be concerned about any of those things for now...list of to do's :

    Decide if you going with NSW (Natural sea water) or premix ? Where will you get it from?
    Then get your tank drilled (sure there would be a MASA member who would be able to assist)
    Get yourself a sump at the bottom
    Then look for a skimmer
    Heater
    Hydrometer or refractometer...and some rock and substate (sand or also called arragonite) to get your tank started
    It will have to cycle first which will give you time to find out more about the rest

    Good luck
     
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    For now... I got that 5kg bucket premix...

    Getting my RO unit connected on saturday...

    Hydro and refracto i have... But need to learn how to use them...

    At the moment i have 20L buckets for mixing the water and taking it to my tank. If at a later stage i decide to make my big tank marine then i have a 1000L container outside that pumps water to my big tank.

    I was planning to get the ball rolling in december and letting the water run for a bit...

    Must add the rock first or can i just let the water run and then add the rock?

    Would the overflow box work?
     
  12. Zandy

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    To start the tank and the cycle you need to decide if you going for live rock or dead rock.
    The rock needs to be added prior to starting the tank...so you would add the substate, then the rock and water.All at the same time. And yes an overflow works well
     
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    Okie... will make the overflow this weekend and test it...

    will measure up a sump and try and make it.
     
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    Good luck and shout if need be...sure there are members here that will give good advise on DIY builds...
     
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    Do yourll suggest converting my 3ft or buying a nano for R1600???
     
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    How good are your DIY skills?

    Is there place in the sump for a sump.

    Sump you can buy a 3foot or 3 foot Daro tank secondhand from Junkmail and convert that into a sump.

    Else, if you can get a Nano tank that is already right for marine, it can be an alternative option. Sell your tank and get the nano. But soon you would wish for a bigger system. Your choice.
     
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    masahello
     
  18. AllyZone

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    I have a friend in the glass business so was thinking of telling him to do it for me
     
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    So managed to find these items this weekend from a good friend of mine..

    Please suggest prices that i should pay. Items are few months old.

    He also had 2 big T5 units with those bright lights in the centre...

    And a bucket off red sea salt mix ...

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    Well the reef octo dnw-250 is probably rated at around the 1500ltr mark

    So way bigger than you need, but you can use it if you can afford it

    The light sound like MH&T5 combo units. Also prob over spec for a standard 3ft but you can use it later if you want to go wider and deeper. Just read up on Metal Halides there are some issues like heat to take into consideration., but depending on what coral you want to keep you can just keep the MH turned off for now

    Thats one really big chiller. But pnce again if you got the money and its cheap enough, you can use it on a much bigger tank
     
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    Prices i should pay?
     
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