trickel filter

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  1. cizanie

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    is it a good idea to use a trickel filter in my new (first) marine tank?:whistling:
     
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    no. the reason being is they are very effective in processing nutrients into nitrates very quickly pushing nitrates up. this is not a good thing.
     
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    ok tx, so what should i use?
     
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    please post all details of what u have and lets see if we have any suitable suggestions
     
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    i have nothing yet. i'm building a 500L tank and haven't bought any filters yet, as i am not sure what to buy and don't want to spent a fortune.
     
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    ask for guys in your area to show you their tanks and explain their setups to you. seeing is grasping and appreciating the whys and why nots.
     
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    that the funny side to it, cant find anyone. We live next to the coast and no one seems to have a marine aquarium. thanks anyway
     
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    there are beginner threads for that sort of stuff. crispin is really helpful with that sort of stuff. the question is what sort of budget do you have. what sort of time can you spend on tank maintenance. where do you intend putting it in your house
     
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    what sort of experience regarding fishkeeping do you have?
     
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    please excuse all the questions but if i can understand you and what you know i can try to help with the guys on the forum assisting. @irie ivan is also really knowledgeable and has many good threads.
     
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    also chat to dave from @perky pets
    He is extremely helpful. And can give u ideas on pricing
     
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    ok lets start from the beginning, I've got a 1200x600x700mm DT and a +-1000x400x300mm tank which i'm going to turn into a sump. I've kept freshwater tropicall fish for many year. I'm not sure what i should use for my filter system. is it only livesand, liverock, and a sump with a protein skimmer(it just doesnt sound like enough). I dont have a budget, i just dont want to spend a fortune on a protein skimmer. I was thinking not more than R1000 if its possible. also dont want one that makes alot of noise.
    i have checked out alot of forums but it don't get enough info.
    thanks for your help.
     
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    Unfortunately skimmers can be pricey unless u find a good secondhand one
     
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    ok, even if i do spend more on a skimmer i dont mind, would like to do it the right way first time, my question is: what else do i need for my filtration system, is there something else i need besides livesand, liverock and a sump with a skimmer. is there anything else i need to put into the sump, any filter media etc. sorry for asking everything over and over again.
     
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    @cizanie,
    I run my system with only "live sand" as you call it, we call it a DSB :) and a skimmer with some live rock.
    I find this adequate for my system.
     
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    thanks gesiggie, that answers my question. O and is that what dsb stand for. thanks a million.
    so i dont need those orga bio cubes in my sump aswell?
     
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    Generally DSB and orca cubes perform the same function... Orca cubes can start working faster than a DSB, but needs to be replaced(topped up) every now and again whereas the DSB needs to be seeded every once in a while (add a cup of sand from another reefers's healthy system)
     
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    ok and how thick should it be? if i decide on a shallow sand bed (or is it a bad idee) should i then use the bio cubes?
     
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    a DSB should ideally be at least 20 - 25 cm deep, and minimum 40% (I may be wrong) of your DT size. The bigger the better. I know there is a thread that @RiaanP did on DSB's I am looking for it, will paste it shortly.

    That would mean that you can run a 3-chamber sump, with the first compartment to take the skimmer, (that will also be the chamber to receive the water from your DT) The 2nd compartment will be the DSB, and the 3rd one will house your return pump.
     
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    ok, so one last question, i can have a shallow sand bed (?mm), a sump with 3 chambers. first chamber is protein skimmer, second = bio cubes and third = return pump. just a thought.
     
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