Toadstool rotting?

Discussion in 'Soft Corals' started by AfricaOffroad, 13 Sep 2010.

  1. AfricaOffroad

    AfricaOffroad

    Joined:
    12 Mar 2010
    Posts:
    1,696
    Likes Received:
    35
    Location:
    Ballito, KZN
    Friend of mine's pin cushion has started to erode at its base. Big gaping hole at the coral's trunk that has continued to grow with time. He pulled it out a few day's ago, and also noticed spots of rot under the main cap/head.

    What would cause this? Some kind of bacterial attack?

    So anyway last night he and myself cut this coral up into little pieces, removing all the rotting material and creating what we hope are 6 healthy frags. Never done this before, felt very alien cutting up a living organism (well the few prostitutes excluded:whistling:)

    Elastic banded them (light tension) onto pieces of rock and placed them in my frag tank. Lets see if they grow.

    In hindsight, will my generosity come back and bite me? Could this infection spread to my healthy pincushions in my main DT? I do run a 55W UV sterilizer for what its worth.
     
  2. AdS Guest




    to hide all adverts.
  3. butcherman

    butcherman Moderator MASA Contributor

    Joined:
    7 Sep 2009
    Posts:
    11,626
    Likes Received:
    280
    Location:
    Kempton Park
    did you dip them in iodine befor putting them back?
     
  4. AfricaOffroad

    AfricaOffroad Thread Starter

    Joined:
    12 Mar 2010
    Posts:
    1,696
    Likes Received:
    35
    Location:
    Ballito, KZN
    Didn't do this. nothing available last night.
    I'm going to pop past the LPS this morning and pick some up as a precaution.
     
  5. Pistolshrimp

    Pistolshrimp

    Joined:
    3 Aug 2009
    Posts:
    202
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Durban
    Hi craig is this the one you bought from me? Hws it doing?
     
  6. Afsal

    Afsal

    Joined:
    7 May 2007
    Posts:
    2,318
    Likes Received:
    22
    Location:
    Dbn,Kzn
    NO PISTOL , friend of AOR's .....
     
  7. AfricaOffroad

    AfricaOffroad Thread Starter

    Joined:
    12 Mar 2010
    Posts:
    1,696
    Likes Received:
    35
    Location:
    Ballito, KZN
    Pistol, as per what Afsal said above.
    Funnily enough, regarding the toadshool in question, I also bought one in the same shipment as my mate.
    Mine is 100%.
    Just shows what happens when you pick the bigger one (which is what he did at the time - LOL !)
     
  8. scubaninja

    scubaninja

    Joined:
    20 Jul 2008
    Posts:
    6,739
    Likes Received:
    21
    Location:
    Durban
    did it shed recently? i've had the same thing happen to me on two occasions. Both were after a shed where they new skin is slightly softer and less protected. Its bacterial i think. Cut off the bad parts(as you have already done) and place it in a higher flow area. The rot starts when it does not have enough flow to pull the old skin off and kee the new skin free of anything that might attach to it. It shouldnt spread to any other leather, save for the stuff landing on another coral.
     
  9. ed

    ed

    Joined:
    1 Jun 2007
    Posts:
    230
    Likes Received:
    6
    Location:
    Bloemfontein
    think u did the right thing, dose with iodine till the frag r strong
     
  10. AfricaOffroad

    AfricaOffroad Thread Starter

    Joined:
    12 Mar 2010
    Posts:
    1,696
    Likes Received:
    35
    Location:
    Ballito, KZN
    No recent shedding that I know about.
    It was still expanding and extending its pins daily as the rot continued to eat away at its parts.

    Funnily enough, this morning, I noticed some of the frags had small dimplets where the pins were protrudingly slightly. Are elastic bands the right way to go? Light tension, wont cut into frag but will constrict it from expanding. Plus minus how long before they attach to rock?

    No toothpicks were available at time of fragging
     
  11. scubaninja

    scubaninja

    Joined:
    20 Jul 2008
    Posts:
    6,739
    Likes Received:
    21
    Location:
    Durban
    it would show extension during its rot, but the rot starts off after a shed.
    Elastic bands were a good way to go. They should start grabbing on within a week or so. But then it might not be the best of grips. So just keep checking. Once i waited a tad too long for a kenya tree too attach and i ended up having to cut the elastic band away. I think there is still a small piece of the rubber band inside the stem of that kenya tree :lol:
     
    Last edited: 13 Sep 2010
  12. Pistolshrimp

    Pistolshrimp

    Joined:
    3 Aug 2009
    Posts:
    202
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Durban
    I forgot to say my sarcophyton also did this when i got it, a part of it died and started rotting, was a very small piece so i just pinched it off then it healed and came right
     
  13. lIghty

    lIghty

    Joined:
    3 Nov 2007
    Posts:
    5,053
    Likes Received:
    52
    Location:
    Westville, Durban
    Did you kiss this toadstool?

    Seriously, I would do an iodene dip and cut the rotting section away.
     
  14. scubaninja

    scubaninja

    Joined:
    20 Jul 2008
    Posts:
    6,739
    Likes Received:
    21
    Location:
    Durban
    I never did iodine dips on mine. Always came right. But could be good.
     
  15. AfricaOffroad

    AfricaOffroad Thread Starter

    Joined:
    12 Mar 2010
    Posts:
    1,696
    Likes Received:
    35
    Location:
    Ballito, KZN
    Bought the coral dip.
    Tonight these little suckers are having a bath.
     
  16. butcherman

    butcherman Moderator MASA Contributor

    Joined:
    7 Sep 2009
    Posts:
    11,626
    Likes Received:
    280
    Location:
    Kempton Park
    it cant hurt them :p
     
  17. Andreas

    Andreas

    Joined:
    14 Feb 2008
    Posts:
    4,251
    Likes Received:
    12
    Location:
    Centurion
    While you're at it give youself one as well:p You can sit in the bath and play with them:razz:
     
  18. lIghty

    lIghty

    Joined:
    3 Nov 2007
    Posts:
    5,053
    Likes Received:
    52
    Location:
    Westville, Durban
    Maybe get Scuba to come around, he probably needs a bath too.:thumbup:
     
  19. robvdv

    robvdv

    Joined:
    22 Jun 2007
    Posts:
    798
    Likes Received:
    16
    Location:
    Noordhoek, Cape Town
    If you can avoid this, do. They really don't like having things pressed against their skin. Rather keep them in a rubble trough where they can attach naturally.
     
  20. AfricaOffroad

    AfricaOffroad Thread Starter

    Joined:
    12 Mar 2010
    Posts:
    1,696
    Likes Received:
    35
    Location:
    Ballito, KZN
    Thanks Rob, will try this approach. Will construct something in the next day or 2
     
  21. AfricaOffroad

    AfricaOffroad Thread Starter

    Joined:
    12 Mar 2010
    Posts:
    1,696
    Likes Received:
    35
    Location:
    Ballito, KZN
    Okay, elastics removed.
    You were right Rob, the frags started rotting under them.

    I dipped frags and placed them on pieces of rock unattached.
    Lets see if they grow.
     
Recent Posts

Loading...
Similar Threads - Toadstool rotting Forum Date
Urgent help needed Toadstool Leather rotting!!!!! Urgent Help Needed 20 Apr 2013
White Toadstool Soft Corals 29 Jun 2016
[wtd] Neon green Cabbage and Toadstool coral frags Wanted 25 Apr 2015
[wtd] Neon green toadstool leather frag Wanted 8 May 2013
Urgent help needed Yellow Toadstool Dying Urgent Help Needed 12 Jun 2012
Toadstool leather - sarcophyton in Durban Wanted 28 Nov 2011
Should I move my toadstool? Soft Corals 30 Sep 2011