To suck or not to suck

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  1. Tobes

    Tobes Retired Moderator

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    OK, I know you don't disturb a DSB. What about a 1-2 inch sand bed in your DT? Some say you should vacuum it and some say don't. I vacuum mine sometimes and a lot of shit comes out, but you also suck up pods and other living things which is not good. What's your guys feel on this?
     
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    I let my Sleeper Goby and Nassarius Snails clean up my substrate, haven't ever tried the vacuum, scared I will remove too much fishfood, especially my Copperband and 6-Line's food.
     
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    As above, get some nassurius snails to stir it up, much more natural then.
     
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    in my old system i always stirred my shallow sand bed.amazing how much of muck collects in it
     
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    Should I rather stir it occasionaly or vacuum? I usually vacuum every other water change.
     
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    As long as you have a healthy bristleworm and cuc population i don't think there is a need to stir it, if that much crap is settling in your susbtrate then i would suggest moving powerheads around to keep it in the water column so it can be skimmed.
     
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    I have a DSB in my Display Tank. I "stir up" (rake) the top +-0.5cm to 1cm of my DSB - I then "feed" my corals this way. I do not vacuum my sand bed at all..... The muck that comes out contains larvae, detritus, spores, tiny worms, phytoplankton, zoo-plankton and bacteria - which all acts as food for my corals, my filter feeders, my clams, etc...... And this muck also helps my 2nd (in-sump DSB) to be "fed" :)
     
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    Thanks guys, will not vacuum it again - I'll leave the sucking to someone else :whistling:
     
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    Have read somewhere that it is a good idea to create a "Hurricane" in the tank every now and again. So about every 2nd month I tank a seio mounted on a pipe and blow around the rocks.
     
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    Or like in my tank have one of my Seio suction mounts give way, and hurricane time :whistling:
     
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    Yep, redirecting a powerhead is like a turbocharged turkey baster:)
     
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    and the idea of pumping air in to the power head to make a temory BIG skimmer type thing?
     
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    Is a rather bad one:lol: sorry Crispy, all you will do is fill your tank full of bubbles which could hurt the fish/corals.
     
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    i use to do this previously,all the corals tend to slime,skimmer goes bezerk.
    Irie Ivan exposes his corals to air (if im not mistaken)
     
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    But apparently not good if you got clams around
     
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    yeah thats true,as it can cause airpockets in the clam
     
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    I have two clams in my tank, and my 2 x ReSun Wave-makers does this in any case - it sucks air every now and again, and blows gazillions of tiny tiny bubbles into my tank, making my tank look milky white. I have my one clams now for over a year, and the other for at least 3 months. Seemingly no issues with my 2 clams....
     
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    i guess we under estimater the strenght of clams
     
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