TL550 with skinny overflow and sump

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  1. shauno

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    Hi guys, I have re designed my tl 550, still busy with it but what me and my brother sentari have done is re design the original cabinet so that we can put a small sump inside it. We drilled 32mm overflow holes into the back of the tank for a skinny overflow which must still be made up. Its amazing how much more space you get when the black plastic compartments at the back of the tank is taken out. Will try post pics of progress so far, but using. A blackberry so dunno if that will work. Otherwise will do a facebook upload and send the link.
     
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    ok so done a bit of work over the holidays and have done most of the plumbing.

    I need to just get some glass so i can make the overflow and the sump.

    Here's some pics so far , they not the greatest but you should get an idea of whats happening.The Whole idea of this was to keep the tank standard as can be without loosing the cabinet and the hood.

    The sump isng going to be that big but it should serve its purpose!!

    Lemmie hear your thoughts
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    wow looking good :) .. Why didn't you have the return line also in the back where its out of view?
     
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    Thanks Tremayn,


    I wanted to drill a 20mm return on the back , but already drilled 2 x 32mm holes in the back for the overflow and didnt want to stress the glass any more with another hole, so decided to go this route..
     
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    Looking lekker. Now just to build the sump. Going to take dimensions this week and then order the glass.

    We putting the overflow in the inside. Its going to be a skinny overflow.

    Its going to be running off a TS1 skimmer with a DSB and then return. We might put some cheato over the DSB all depending if we can fit everything in there.

    DSB height will be 15 cm, water above that will be 10cm and then height above that will be 10cm's. so a nicely designed sump.

    Will post pics soon also.
     
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    Thinking of putting a Halia 1000l/h return pump anyone got any idea if this will be okay?
     
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    Any thoughts to return pump?
     
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    Okay so worked out the dimensions for the Sump.

    42 x 42 x 35 (Height)
    DSB will be 22 x 42 depending on the skimmer size. Which is a TS1 Skimmer.
    3 chambers. 1 skimmer -> DSB -> Return
     
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    Here's the design. Comments please.

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    More detail

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  12. Sentari

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    @RiaanP thought i would ask you for your opinion.
     
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    whats the head height? I think the halei 1000lph might struggle to pump that height rather get the 1750pump and u can throttle it back if its too powerful or have it recirculate in your sump
     
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    Thanks for replying Ziyaad

    Its about 1.2m. The tank is 140L and the sump is 30L +-

    So that makes it 170L.
     
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    Thank for the info Dean. Was wondering about doing that but i dont have that problem in my sump. Will test it with water and see if its needed.

    Whats your view of the return pump and the turnover?
     
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    looks good, just make the return section big enuff so when you turn on the pump it doesnt run dry, eg pumps out faster than the tank can supply, if that happens then you have to much flow over your dsb. if that is the case, then plumb in a T piece and return the water back into the skimmer chamber and some to the tank
     
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    Do you know what the max head height is on that pump? You also need to factor in bends in the plumbing that reduce the pumps head quite a bit. Have you got the pump already?
     
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    u can work on a loss of 1 foot per 90° bend
     
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    Havent got the pump yet. Will count the 90 degree bends and work out the head height before purchasing a return pump.

    Thanks for the suggestions guys!
     
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    could work, but,
    the two front corners will be too slow, and settlement will be there. Been there done that, on a 60L with inlet box left back corner, and outlet box in right back corner. And both front corners was always just settlement all sorts. With big cheato ball in the middle, you would think flow around the ball will be great. Nope.

    I got a cube sump design, for a project that did not see the light. Where I got it solved.
    post 32
    Designing my future cube - Page 2 - Marine Aquariums of South Africa
    The outlet part, do not need the slots, just a lower lip. Inlet the same. So some alterations are needed. That sump was designed to be able to handle a 10% water change without switching any pumps off (50+L). Only your ATU must be switched off.
     
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