Tiny tank

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  1. Clownfish101

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    hi everyboady :wave2:
    i have a 55L tiny tank but i really like marine what fish could i put in sush a small tank?
    and are there ANY invertabrates or corals that would work? just want to know if the idea is possible. oh and i cant spent to much cash on this project :(
     
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    Hi

    55l is not tiny - I have a 7l marine tank. You can fit quite a bit on a 55l tank - what lighting do you have?
     
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    hi and welcome to Masa.

    i agree,you are able to put alot in2 your 55l tank(depending on,lights,skimmer(filtration))
     
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    ok its currently freshwater but i want to change to marine or brackish im not sure what light it is i only know its ok for a marine tank and my tank seems well lit i also wanted to ask what filter to use i would prefer something with less mantinence and preferably not very big/space consuming. i currently have a UG filter my substrate is coarse silica sand, would that work?
     
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    what is a pretty active sort of fish with character that will be ok in 55L? otherwise i like Banggai Cardinals will they work, or perhaps clowns?
     
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    well i think ill comment here.

    i would suggest that you do some reading up and then decide for yourself what fish you want, fish with characters are blennies, you can fit like 3 fish into that tank, i would suggest small fish and no tangs or angels.

    also because it is such a small tank, what are you planning with regards to filtration? being such a small tank you might get away with just live rock and weekly water changes and stocking lightly, as for lights it depends on id you want to keep any corals or not.

    but depending on the depth of the tank i would suggest 2 t5's as enough for softies.

    also for nano tanks, you cant go without purigen.
     
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    Just a question first; what is the actual dimensions of the tank? If it is a cube for example, you are limited with fish that likes to swim actively. If however it is a rectangular tank, your fish stocking changes a bit...

    I would suggest clownfish (occelaris or precula), cardinals are fine, gobies, a great white shark - you know, those types of fish...

    Also, a very nice fish to have swimming in such small tanks are the domino damsels or four stripe damsels. If you can have a school of them (about 5 small ones) that would work well. Problem with them though is they do not play well with others, so if you decide to go that route, keep them in a species tank...
     
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    Welcome to MASA, please read the link below on starting a marine tank - great info ;)
     
  10. Clownfish101

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    ok will this work?

    FISH: Yellowtail Fang Blenny, banggai cardinal fish pair, clownfish and tailspot blenny
    (reccomendations will be appreciated)


    LIVE ROCK: Xenia, mushroom coral, brain coral, sea urchins, featherduster and some hard coral. (reccomendations please)

    oh and ide like a small active shrimp. (once again reccomendations please)

    just so you understand i do not mean to get all of the above i would like you to reccomend a possible set or 2 of them.
     
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    ;)heya
    ye, i have to agree with some of the others, to better advise you on the sort of livestock you would be able to house in your system we would need to know what sort of lighting(ie: t5,t8 , plu. . etc)you have as this would have an effect on the invert life you will be able to house.

    what sort of filtration are you currently running? i take it that if you are running the system as freshwater , theres no sump ? thats fine on a 55l tank but might need to change your media . . etc .

    in a 55l tank you could have a wide range of inhabitants, you just need to have sufficient filtration & light to meet there specific needs.

    regards
     
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    ok my lighting is 1 dayglow tube 100w i think. i currently have a UG filter but ill happily chang to something else(not too pricey). and i will buy another light if i must. (not to pricey) i have a very tight budget and theres still plenty of stuff i need to buy.

    i currently have coarse silica sand substrate, do i HAVE to change it? we bought a rally big bag and i havent even used half it my mom will flip if i need to buy ANOTHER sustrate ive had 3 in the last 2 months.

    ok besides the above i still need ...
    a protien skimmer
    marine salt
    Hydrometer
    pump

    is that everything dont i need a salinity mesurer thingy?(whats it called?)
    and which test kits do i need
     
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    hey guys ive never seen it but can you keep seaweed in a aquarium?

    oh and my tank is 60x30x30
     
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    mmm... how about
    2 cardinals
    3 clownfish
    1 tailspot/lyretail blenny
    1 shrimp
    is that too much? i also want some coral
     
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    Clownfish, only two of the same species.

    Maybe a Purple Dottyback. Small and active. And a couple of hermit crabs

    Your filtration must be good. You most likely will overfeed. So skimmer is a MUST
     
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    sorry guys wrong lighting info
    1 40w extra high day glow
    it says on the box "promotes coral and invertabrate growth"

    sorry riaan thanks for the advice but im not rally into dottybacks or hermits
     
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    does a pocelain crab need land? does a porcelien crab need an anemone?
     
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    thanks for all the info so far

    will this work?

    FISH
    1 banggai cardinal
    2 clownfish
    1 tailspot blenny
    possibly + porcelain crab (depending on if it needs an anemone. does it???)

    INVERTS
    1 Black Longspine Urchin
    1 Xenia
    a bunch zoanthids

    sorry riaan not really into hermits or dottybacks

    how neccesary is a pump? i know that the xenia needs a current but the others dont so would it be ok if i put the xenia buy the filter outlet and then not use a pump? im not sure what to feed the fish or the inverts. please reccomend some fish+invert food to me. i know the clowns and cardinal are omnivorous and the blenny is a herbivour. i know xenia=iodine/nothing, zoanthids=nothing and not really sure about the urchin please reccomend me a fishfood. as for equipment was thinking to buy one of those hang on back filters (what are they called?)
    and keep my UG as well and of course ill buy a proetien skimmer. how much live rock will be NEEDED? what test kits and something drometers do i need? oh and my water is really soft how should i harden it?

    sorry for all the qestions but i really dont want to mess this up.
     
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    Hi

    Get rid of the UG filter
    Need a hang on skimmer
    RO water
    marine salt
    Hydrometer/salinity tester
    Ammonia test
    PH test
    Nitite test
    Phos test
    Alkalinity test
    10kg LR
    Play sand (cheap)
    Get a Boyu 200L/H hang on filter and put in the 1 chamber some seachem purigen
    with charchoal
    get some T5 24W Lights (2x 12000K white and 1 Blue)
    Let it run for 1 to 2 months
    add 1 hermit to clean
    Leave the L/spine urchin and get a short spine
    test your water after 1 month before adding your LS
    Add them at least 2 weeks of each other
    Add some softies
    Add some LPS

    short but you got the idea
    and READ UP before adding
    Don't take chances, it will back fire,
    If you're not sure, let it past better to save the money then to loose a lot

    GOOD LUCK
     
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    listen i admit i dont like some of your advice but i apprecciate you giving it all the same i would like to clear up what part of it i MUST do to make a sucess of this and what part you think i should do i also have some questions ill start at the start.

    do i have to get rid of the UG filter i wont count it as part of the filtration but its easier to just let it stay, i mean, it wont do any harm will it?

    how do i get RO water?

    what is phos?

    LR is live rock right?

    my current sustrate is coarse silica sand do i HAVE to change to playsand?

    dont really know what you mean with "Get a Boyu 200L/H hang on filter and put in the 1 chamber some seachem purigen with charcal"

    are the lights REALLY neccesary and must i add them of swap them with my curent light.

    i dont really like short spine urchins so CAN i get a long spine urchin otherwise i wont get an urchin at all.

    what is LS?

    by softies do you mean soft coral?

    do i HAVE to add some LPS or is it just a reccomendation?

    i dont really understand your last paragraph do you mean read up about the fish (i have) about the inverts (i also have) read up about what? and chances with what?

    sorry if any of the above seemed rude or impertanent its not meant like that see im trying to get a balance between the right way and my way. but thanks for all the advice its +- what i wanted.
     
  21. Q89

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    I'm no expert, but I can help you with some of the questions.

    how do i get RO water?
    A lot of LFS sell RO water, otherwise you need to buy a RO machine that filters the water and takes everything out of the water, making the water 'pure'

    LR is live rock right?
    Yes LR = Live Rock.

    what is phos?
    I might be wrong, but I believe it is Phosphate.

    Hope it helps a bit:thumbup:

    The rest I'm not sure (don't want to make a a$$ of myself:p)
     
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