Thinking of keeping fly's ?

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    Fly's are the most common fish on a reef. Why is it that reefers treat them like a plague?
     
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    Because a lot of them are corralivores, some are obligate corralivores and the rest are just plain finicky.
    I am still growing my sps to the point where i can keep a meyeri, trifasciatus and of course an orange spotted filefish.
     
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    A "lot" is 30+ can one say? That can be kept in a reef environment.

    IMO a lot of flys are easier to keep than some tangs.

    IMO myths and stigma deter many a reefer from the most beautiful reef fishes.
     
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    I would love to keep some flys but everyone says they wont work in a mixed reef.
     
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    Yes I suppose if you listen to everybody then one will never keep fly's :p

    Some of the flys I have. :biggrin:


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    The keeping of BF fish in a mixed reef can be done. One must just choose the right corals and BF's

    One of course cannot keep Scoly's and open brains with flys. But then even most angle fish will destroy them.
     
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    Wow!!!

    Do they eat shrimps?
     
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    They all eat a mixture of foods. Krill, Artemia, Mysis, Lobster eggs, reef paste and pellets.

    They do not eat my cleaner or fire shrimps.
    They do have the odd peck at the corals but the corals grow so fast that they do not suffer.
     
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    NJ would you make a list of "coral" safe flys,
    eg compatible with Soft, SPS etc

    would be a great resource.

    I did have a racoon fly that never touched my corals
     
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    Sure Dallas. I will put one together tonight for you guys. I must stress that BF's are like Angel fish, some dont touch corals and some do.
    Racoons are not a great fly to keep in a reef tank. From my experiance they love clams and LPS. Zoas and shrooms as well. You were lucky and got a good one.:thumbup:
     
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    I had a squiz through the work of uncle Bobs book and extrapolated what some suitable flys to keep in aquariums. Most of them need big aquariums and are best kept in pairs or singular. Very few can be kept in schools.
    I really recommend downloading the book. It only costs R150.00 and has a wealth of good content on which flys to choose. With flys it is very difficult to say that a specimen will not peck or eat corals. Most will have a nip or two if hungry. Bob explains this well in the book.
     
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    Here are some that can be tried in full reef systems. I have personally kept species market with a *

    Forcipigei longirostris ( yellow long nose BF) *
    Forcipigei flavissimus ( long nose BF) *
    Chelimon rostratus ( copperband BF) *
    Hemitaurichthy polyepsoni (pytimid BF) *
    Hemitaurichthy zosten ( black pyrimid BF)

    Others that may nip on corals (LPS)
    Chaetodon species
    Cuttatissimus (spotted BF)
    Ephippium (saddle back)
    Collare (Pakistani BF) *
    Argent stud (Asian BF)
    Aurica (thread fin) *
    Burgessi (burgess BF) *
    Daedalus (wrought iron BF)
    Decussatus (vaguerbond BF)*
    Declivis (Marquesans)
    Falculr (saddle back BF)
    Fasciatus ( RS raccoon)
    Flauocoronatus (yellow crown)
    Kleinfeld (kleins BF)
    Lunula ( raccoon)
    Madagascariensis (seashells BF or Madagascar BF) *
    Mertensis chevron BF)
    Miliaris ( lemon BF)
    Mitratus (Indian BF)
    Pavcifasciatus ( RS chevron)
    Semilarvatus ( Midas or blue cheek BF) *
    Tinkering (tinkers BF)
    Xanthurus ( pearl scale)


    The following coachmen are also ok to keep in softy tanks

    Heniochus intemedius *
    Heniochus Monoceros *
    Heniochus diphreutes *
    Heniochus chrysostomus


    When I get some time I will add pics to the species and will go in depth a little more as to what each species eats.

    There are a lot more flys but they are not worth trying to keep and are best left in the oceans until such time as foods are made available for them. Most of the rest only feed on corals.
     
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    Got the book on Kindle was a quick and easy read.
     
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