The range of "affordable" LEDS out now

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  1. Jt143

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    So guys with a number of sponsor now revealing
    So called "affordable" LED solutions I was Just wondering
    What would be the general consensus on which we would
    Go for


    Let me put in in perspective
    So far I see
    The PHAROS 90w or the 120w
    Then the aquabeauty new LEDS
    AND THen the ones that are available already
    Like the vertex Marcino

    These are all within the same price range depending on your tank
    Size

    So what would u go for? Based on These ranges not on something
    Out of the price range of the average guy
     
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    dallasg Moderator MASA Contributor

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    if i was choosing, i would look for light spectrum offered and then max coverage per unit
     
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    First light spectrum then exact amount/price of unit(s) plus controller if seperate to cover your tank.
     
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    Max coverage sounds good, but a 600 by 600 coverage with 120 degree lenses will not achieve the depth penetration than 90 or 60 degree lenses would.
    Then again narrow lenses will result in more of a spot light effect. Forcing you to place the LED units closed together.

    So first question you must answer yourself. How deep is your tank? On what depth are the rock stack and corals?
     
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    Guys I'm just about to buy a cube 60x60 with depth of 50

    Not sure of how my aquascaping will look as yet

    But need to buy lighting for that cube

    And now that there so many options I'm confused

    Advise please
     
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    A Radion will look cool on that tank...
    Lots of features...and I think they are running s special on them...
     
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    To be honest, at depths of up to 60cm I really don't think you need to worry about lenses, from the research I have done, it appears that with the newer LED chips on the market that the majority of units these days will provide sufficient PUR at depths of up to 20 to 24 inches/50 to 60 cm's, without lenses. Deeper than that then you'd be best to do some more research into what corals you will be having lower down in the tank and what degree lenses you might need to look at.
     
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    Or, if you want to stick with the old fogies and the tried and trusted method, a single 150w Metal Halide will cover your entire lighting requirements for that sized tank. :)
     
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    yes a radion will be perfect
     
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    Thanks guys

    Maybe the sponsor can also chip in here
    what is the difference between the "new" Pharos 90w and the aquabeauty 70w.

    Im looking at those two options at present
     
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    Radion is over R5000

    Others are more affordable 3-4K
     
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    Radion is 135w where the others are 70 and 90

    So in reality the Radion is like 2 * aquabeauty 70w.

    Its like comparing a 3.4L turbo diesel double cab with a 2.2 diesel double cab. the 2.2 will (should) be cheaper. But the 3.4 will pack a lot more power.

    yeah yeah, other things like spread, coverage, depth penetration and PAR reading, different colours, and what not can also be taken into consideration.

    But the quick and easy method for me is to compare the total wattage of the LED clusters with each other.
     
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    so R1000 more for double the wattage, having just been through this light choice myself i can say i went with what others are using. The radions are tried and tested, from gen 1 thru to pro. the gen1 radion is the perfect choice, and should you upgrade it can cover more and also be used. the gen1 on special now have the TIR lenses included so for R5000 its the best choice, ask @Nemeziz_za who has switched back to radion
     
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    ok understood, but say we compared two apples, just two 2,2lt

    the pharos and the aquabeauty

    would u then go for pharos cos its 90w and aquabeauty is 70w
     
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    Also, before considering the "affordable LED's" ask yourself why guys buy them, only to sell them a few months down the line and buy vertex, radion, etc etc....:whistling:
     
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    I had maxpects and all I can say is get someone like spsmad who has a par meter and test to see if they meet your requirements before buying. Par meter gets rid of speculation
     
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    Only buy leds with decent spread and possibility of lense interchangeability
     
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    Also minimum of 120degree lenses as leds that are too focussed burn corals
     
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    Ps there is no such thing as a bargain unless comparative value is determined by comparing quality and price and then paying perceivably less than comparative determined value otherwise it is just correctly priced or well priced to compete in current market
     
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    Not so much for LED's. My understanding is that PAR meters are rather unsuitable for measuring LED's. Have a google, you'll see. ;)
     
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