The new guy.

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  1. BravoAlphaBravo

    BravoAlphaBravo

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    :thumbup:Hi All
    Just a quick introduction of myself.
    I have been divining since i was 12(i'm now 25) and thorougly enjoy being underwater. So much so I am trying to convert my house into one big fish tank against my girlfriends wishes. I envision floor to ceiling glass dispalys by the time i turn 50.
    I have a very good knowledge of marine fish that i have learned in my spare time but am yet to put anything into practise.
    I started my first real aquarium 3 years ago with tropical fish and once i got the hang of it moved up to breeding discus and I am now ready and have the spare cash to go into my first Marine tank. I do a lot of scuba and freediving so I would be very interested in starting to collect the fish myself but do not know the rules and regulations regarding this in South Africa. I have paid for a licene to do it but am unser as to the regulations in selling my catches to fellow hobbyist or pets stores. can it be done ?
    I am also hoping to start a breeding programme at some stage just to make thing a little more challenging out of my garage but im hoping to get my first tank and sump running correctly.
    I have started diving for my own live rock to add and next project is to build the outside overflow. There has to be a cheaper way to do it than the odd R800 the pet stores want to charge you! . what i have at the moment is a pvc construct that looks like two WW next to each other with the head and tail chopped off hopefully this will work and would have cost me R100 and 2Hrs labour.
    Any advise would be greatly appreciated . I am very interested in catching and selling but dont know a thing about it.
     
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  3. butcherman

    butcherman Moderator MASA Contributor

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    Welcome to MASA

    sorry to be the bearer of bad news
    As laws stand, you cant sell, trade or give away that you catch. Nor can you return it to the ocean

    I belive without a auqaculture licence you can not go ahead with any breading.

    Other than that I hope you enjoy you stay on the forum
     
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    Welcome to MASA!

    Any pics of your setup?
    You may not sell/swap/donate any of the fish you catch, its states so on the permit. Its also illegal to collect liverock from the coast.
     
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    Now you will be reported to the authorities by members that hold importing permits ?
    That about right ?
     
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    Unfortunately you're not allowed to sell, trade or give away anything you catch. Once something has been in your tank you're not allowed to return it to the sea either, so be sure to know what you're catching (whether it'll be compatible with your existing fish/corals, whether your tank is big enough, etc.).
     
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    Thanks for the info butcherman.
    I did not know about the live rock luckily i do not have any yet.
    Obvisously have a lot to learn.
    like i said earlier it would be long term outlook and i dont know the answers to these questions which is why i am asking everyone.
    So the guys swopping/selling fish on gumtree for example would be illegal ?
    WHere would one go to obtain one of these permits, I have paid for a licence already to catch my own fish so going to start there and it looks like im going to have to buy some live rock.
     
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    If they are locally collected then yes.


    you can buy Live Rock at any good pet shop
    If you want to look into breeding permits you need to approach DAFF.
     
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    Better to ask questions (even seemingly stupid ones) than make a silly mistake. We were all noobs once. ;)

    If they're local fish, then they're illegal. If you know of any pet shops buying or selling local fish then they should be reported to the authorities. It's fine to sell or trade imported fish. There is no way to sell local fish legally. There are no commercial collecting permits.
     
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    No pictures yet, will post when its all put together correctly.
    Thanks for the info, it can be confusing to a newbie because i come across a lot of threads on the internet from people offering to swop and sell fish in SA.
     
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    on gumtree?
     
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    They can swop and sell in SA...as long as it's not locally caught....most of the Fishy's being sold are Imported from Overseas and sold by our Local Fish/Pet Shop....you can then sell them as they are not locally CAUGHT...
     
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    Please start a tank thread we can discuss your setup there.
     
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    Welcome to masa, its great to have you join. There are lots of good LFS that keep quality LR and live stock and there are many different spoecies which you can purchase from them. If you collect yourself (there are a number of guys on masa) then just do it for yourself and dont try sell as that will get you into hot water.

    Why not share the ideas of your tank (s) with us and lets see if we can help you deseign a good system?
     
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    welcome! You can also make your own rock (diy rock)
     
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    gumtree yes, if one were to think about swopping or buying an imported fish how would one know that it was imported or not beforehand?
     
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    Welcome and best of luck
     
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