Tank Update

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  1. Zahed

    Zahed

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    Hi All

    My tank 10 weeks on. I have decided to maitain stability so added a chiller and timer. Next auto top up and then should have major external environment factors under control.

    My inhabs include 8 green chromis, 2 x clowns, 1 blue damsel, 1 x foxface, 1 x dotty back and 1 sand shifty goby. Cucs include 5 hermits, 2 x firecracker shrimps, 6 snails.

    Your advise and next stocking suggestions





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  3. Tremayn

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    hey mate.. what size is your tank? any problems with the chromis fighting? corals? Filtration??? pictures please lol.. What lighting do u have?
     
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    Hello Zahed, Welcome. This is a nice hobby.

    On 6 weeks your cycle completed. And your are added 14 fish in total so far. It looks like a 500L system. So yes, it is a bit fast, but all the fish are smaller species. Not sure on the foxface. Give your tank a week or so to settle again. Remember, as somebody else said, only bad things happen fast in marines.

    I do not like your substrate. Too big pieces. And normally they eventually become detritus traps. You wll see, give it another couple of months and you will not get your phosphate levels in check. Then if you disturb the substrate it will be like green pea soup.

    What your sump like. One of those small square units with glass top and sliding doors? If yes, they work OK (actually good) for fish only systems. Not for SPS and other more difficult corals. Please post a pic of your sump. After all, it is a very important part of your setup.

    Last, do your tank got glass sliders on top of the display?
     
  5. Zahed

    Zahed Thread Starter

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    Hi Guys
    Let me answer questions first,

    Treyman

    1. chromis not fighting.
    2. Filtration - Protein Skimmer Aqua Excel
    Model: AE450E

    Spec: 34cm*15cm*60cm(L*W*H),

    Reaction pipe diameter:120mm

    Outlet port inner diameter:40mm


    Match HaiLea HX6520 needle wheel pump;

    Second Chamber : floss, bio balls and ceramic rings, third chamber live rock

    Lighting : 4 x 54 W T50s



    Power supply: 220V/50Hz 35w
     
  6. Zahed

    Zahed Thread Starter

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    hi Riaan and all

    Yes its 2 weeks since I have added any fish and they seem to be in order.

    My tank is cycling for 10 weeks going on 11.

    Please advise if I should remove the larger coral pieces as substrate.

    My filter system is designed on the "wild on Pets" model. I assumed since he has all coral types in theur tanks I shoild be fine. I am open to suggestion on improving. I also have a chiller and sliders on top.

    More advise is always welcomed
    Thanks once again.
    P>S will take sump phots tonight and post
     
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    do not sound good. Need Pics.
     
  8. RiaanP

    RiaanP Moderator

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    And before somebody jumps on me, let me explain.
    Bioballs are great, in fish only with live rock systems

    Other methods of filtration exists, like dozing bacterria and Vodka. Etc...

    But what is the simplest, cheapest method that you will promote to a newbie.
     
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    DSB in sump
    Grow come cheato/Calurpra in refugium
    Run Phos remover and carbon
    Regular water changes.
    good flow.
     
  10. Zahed

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    [​IMG]photos of my sump

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  11. Zahed

    Zahed Thread Starter

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    Hi Guys

    So I gather i will have high nitrates and possibly phosphates. Based on some reading is if I maintain bioballs I would need to rinse 25% every 4 months so as not to build up DOCs. so my question is;

    Within the same setup how else can I reduce these. My thoughts are a simple (small enough) phosphate reactor in chamber 3 and grow cheato.

    any aother ideas ?
     
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    if you have enough LR u dont need the Bioballs or the ceramic rings
    That skimmer is a bit on the smallish side I would also suggest that you add some mesh to the needle wheel to get better air pull.
    Add a remote dsb as that would also help in reducing your nitrates.
     
  13. viper357

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    Hi Zahed, all that stuff on the floor of your sump, all the bits of coral or whatever needs to come out, all of it, the sponge and balls and rings as well, have nothing in your sump but equipment and water. Your skimmer doesn't look like it's doing anything, what make is it?

    The best thing you can do for your tank is to buy some additional good quality live rock, even if it's just a couple of kg's every month. Live rock is a major filtration aspect of marine tanks.
     
  14. Zahed

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    Hi All

    thanks for the replies. I have made the following modifications based on the suggestions.

    1. Removed all the bits of coral.

    2. Added some live rock in sump and plan to add a lot more in display.

    3. Fixed skimmer, added new impellar (needle wheel) and connected pump direct to skimmer. Much stronger and finer bubble formation and stronger thicker froth in waste cup cone.

    4. Added a reef octupus phos reactor and 25% by volume of N-P pellets (1 week). Connected outflow directly to skimmer and added a 3000 l/h pump instead of the standard 1000 l/h standard. My thoughts are to get sufficient tumbling in reactor and direct aeration and skimming from skimmer. This morning added another 25 % of the N-P pellets.

    5. My my ammonia and nitrites are 0 but Nitrates and phosphates high. I have not tested since adding the N-P pellets and will do so on Saturday. So far I have had no alga blooms etc.

    6. I lost 2 chromis and I thought this was due to cycling etc with N-P pellets but the other day witnessed my firecracker shrimp catching and eating a chromis. Is this normal ? I feed twice a day ( flakes and alternativle myosis and mixed marine frozen foods) Any thoughts. My smaller dotty back is not troubled.

    Will keep you posted on the tank analyses on Saturday. Your advices are always welcomed.

    Added in phosphate reactor (with N-P) pellets
     
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