Tank about to break

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  1. danimal

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    Hey guys

    I noticed the other day some bubbles appearing in the silicone between the front and side glass panes. Was pretty sure they hadn't been there before, and so monitored them for a few days... they are increasing in size noticeably, therefore it is simply a matter of time before my lounge becomes a pool and I become single!

    My plan is to drain the tank tomorrow; I am organising a standby tank from a mate this evening to keep livestock in for the few days this will take to remedy. I will then remove the front panel and re-silicone it in place, adding more bracing. Holding thumbs the livestock all make it though...

    Any advice? Anyone else been through something similar?
     
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  3. mnd123

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    Danimal, my 1.2m started leaking between the front pane and LHS glass, I drained the tank, stripped off the silicone, used a blade between the panes and simply resealed it. Not sure you need to remove the front pane completely - and removing the Euro may just be more trouble than its worth

    Mine has been solid since (but it is only 200l and Euro braced)
     
  4. mnd123

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    How big is your tank?
     
  5. danimal

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    its 1100 x 500 x 500. yes, it might be easier to just cut away and reseal. i will proably have to do this by myself as my wife is going to joburg tomorrow. hmmm, need to plan this properly... :whistling:
     
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    i would reduce level in tank to reduce strain and i would brace it very well by wrapping reinforced packaging tape around the top a few times(this is all imo
     
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    I did mine myself, IIRC
     
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    sorry - a FLA, If I Recall Correctly
     
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    add more bracing to the sides?
     
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    thats the plan :)
     
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    mebe give Adrian or Bob from Idol Marine a buzz and get some advice bud?
     
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    Sorry to hear Dan - two important rules to remember using silicone : try and remove MOST of the old silicone and must be as DRY as possible before applying the new - Oh here's one more - more silicone does NOT mean it will seal better - keep your "bead" as thin as possible but sufficient enough to completely smudge the two glasses together without having too many air pockets when you press together - also you can use sunlight liquid to neaten up extra silicone edges - you can use some tape as well to keep panes together for drying (masking tape works nice as doesn't leave too much marks when removing) hope all goes well bud!
     
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    A couple of my old tanks used to get bubbles in the seams after filling. I always used to thing that it was due to air trapped in the glue.

    I now think it may be due to me filling the tank too soon and not allowing sufficient curing time. I often used to fill within a few days, even if it was just a fresh water test.

    My next tank will stand for a minimum of 1 day per mm of silicon seam before the fresh water test.
     
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    eish - i dont really have that luxury! the livestock are going into some temporary storage with heaters and powerheads, they will also be connected to the sump. i cant really leave them that way for too long, porbably 48 hrs at best while the silicone cures.... hold thumbs for me!
     
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    Have you had a professional tank builder look at the tank. Is it necessary to fix?
     
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    I doubt tape will hold that.

    You could use a "slash clamp" (Like a long "G" clap they use for woodwork) with some thick rubber and wood on the ends, to protect the glass.

    I have a 4ft you could pic up if you would like? it has a overflow so you could do a temp plumbing job..... Get my cell number from Mekaeel if you need to contact me and I'm offline.
     
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    no not yet, but im pretty sure it will be popping off soon. the bubbles in the silicone have noticeably increased in the past few days.

    I doubt tape will hold that.

    thanks lighty, will be picking up some clamps this morning. i got some bic plastic containers for the meantime, thanks for the offer though :)
     
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    well before panic sets in completley remember that so long as the container is attached to the sump and has your LR in it you can keep your fish in there a litte while without trouble provided you did a few water changes and kept your parameters as normal as possible..


    assess the situation and fix it properly or else you will be faced with the same dilema again in a short while due to a rushed Job..

    if you plan this properly there is no reason that anything should be lost..

    as for the siliconing, the longer the cure the better but id say at least 3-4 days (if pressed for time) if you completley reseal the inside seams to an about 8mm bead.

    take your time to check all the stress joints

    good luck buddy.. holding thumbs for you..
     
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    ok im well on my way now. tank is drained and livestock are in two big tubs. the one tub is connected to the sump and contains about half my live rock and all fish, inverts, corals etc. the other tub contains the rest of the live rock and my substrate (aragonite).

    here's my question: I don't have enough pumps etc to connect the second tub to the rest of the system. if i just put a powerhead in there will that be enough to keep the life in the substrate and live rock happy for 3 or 4 days? or should i make a plan and get it all connected?
     
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