switchin over...

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  1. maj

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    Iv been using 2 oceans water for the past year now,never really achieved great colouration from corals,algae issues,had high phos issues etc etc.

    I have decided that I want to switch over to Salt mix and go ULNs with the aid of zeo reactor or Fauna marin ultra bak/bio route.

    Thing is,seeing that my pockets dont overflow with cash,I need to decide what to switch first ,salt or zeo?

    will it be a waste to go zeo route with 2oceans water?
     
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    i would go with salt first, but make this a very slow change and swop over

    start with small water changes and then over a period all the water will be ASW
     
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    Just take into account the cost of running zeo. You need the zeolith stones, bacteria, carbon source, zeolith reactor just to start. Then to maintain the tank you need potassium, iodine, amino acids, coral vitamins. It costs me at least R1000/month just on zeo related supplements a month.
     
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    So 10% weekly slow enuff?

    wait untill totally on salt mix before starting up the ULNS?
     
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    Did do some basic sums on whats required,didnt figur eit will calc to R1000/month
    Is this the cost of zeo specifically?I was more tempted to go the Fauna Marin Ultra bak and bio route as it seemed far less hassle.


    Still researching so need all the advise possible
     
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    The problem with low nutrient is all the other stuff you need to add. If you going to do it properly there are still more supplements like iron, to tweak the colours.
     
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    yip, then let things settle before starting
     
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    yip, then let things settle before starting
     
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    ok,cool.
    So by year end it will be perfect to start up the ULNS.

    Dont mind spending the cash if i get that colouration I always wanted form a marine tank!
     
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    Maj - i am running the Zeolite stones in a netting in a high flow area jus before my return pump- (the kind of stuff onions come in):)
    I attached cableties to it and shake it up every few days and have been running it like this for a few months. I use vodka for the carbon as i have found the Reef Bio fuel to be too strong. I use the microbacter 7 at the moment but want to try Stability next time. The zeoliths last along time and im still on my first bottle of vodhka(i guess its because im not an alcoholic) I do dose iodine but not potassium or amino acids.
     
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    Iwasnt aware that this is do-able(in the mesh bag)
    How effective is it on ur tank at the moment?
    how often do u dose carbon and MB7?

    What is the reason for potassium and amino's?
     
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    I just posted a thread of the running costs have a look. The amino acids are to give the corals food whilst running a LNS otherwise they will die. Potassium is a major element in the water and has the same concentration as calcium. You need to dose it whilst running a LNS because the zeo stones remove potassium.
     
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    :thumbup:

    how is ur feeding regime,moderate or heavy?
    wont heavy feeding still kinda supplement the corals.
    instead of amino and potassium,can u just add coral frenzy?
     
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    It is all the reactor does is give you a fancy way to stir the zeo stones -
    It has definately reduced nutrients alot in that i dont have any green hair algae ( i did put some new live rock in my system a few weeks ago so i have upset the apple cart a bit)
    I dose vodka almost every night 7.5ml with 7.5ml Iodine(1ml per 100lt water) when i remember. I add MB7 every second week or so.
    Are you gonna be keeping SPS ?
    I feed alot - Flakes in the morning - Norrie Midday- Diy frozen mix evening - Lobster eggs/Red Plankton at night :p

    It is working and i am keeping an eye on the NP Pellet aswell - i might go that route when it is perfected. Guys are also using rice overseas:lol:
     
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    figured the reactor is just fancy loookin:)
    not really gona go heavy SPS,maybe just 1 or 2 peices.
    NP Pellets not that effective IMO,have it runnin in my tank without much improvemnt as i had heavy case of GHA.
    I also like fat fish,so tend to feed alot.

    just researchin at the moment,but defnitly gona try to go as LNS as possible
     
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    This is how the bag looks maj !

    [​IMG]

    You can place it in the last compartment of ur sump!
     
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    ok cool,looks just like the onion bag;)

    so needs to be in a very highflow area?or in normal flow
     
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    It does work better in a reactor though. You can use a canister filter as a reactor.
     
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