Sump question

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  1. nudibranch

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    Greetings all

    I have a question regarding the sump I got. I have attached an image of the sump and a diagram. It seems the previous owner had the following setup. Inlet and skimmer in first chamber, crushed coral and bio balls in chamber 2 and the return pump in chamber 3. Is this a viable setup?

    I wanted to implement a DSB in the second chamber but I don't think the sump was designed for that. If you look at my diagram I have circled the area I think could be a problem with the sand going through to the third chamber.

    Any advice her would be greatly appreciated

    Thanks
    Paul

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  3. Express Reef

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    The sup will not work for a DSB, rather look at Bio Cubes...
     
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    Paul that sump is too small for a DSB. Best is to use bio cubes or NP pellets.

    When you come over tomorrow afternoon you will see a few different options that can be done with that type of sump.

    I take it that that sump is in the one side of the cabinet. You can add a refuge to the other side of the cabinet.
     
  5. nudibranch

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    So do bio cubes actually work?
     
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    Hi Keith

    The cabinet is not very big but I have space on the side and in the front. How much space would I need for a refuge?
     
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    YES. Only product that works 100% for 12 months +.
    If you dont believe me, you welcome to come by my place in brits, bring your test kits & test for nitrates & phosphates & see of you can find any... LOL.:lol:
    Ok, ok, on a serious note. Yes, it works.
    Ive had my first batch in my tank for 11 months now, & I still have undetectable nitrates & phosphates.
     
  8. Nemos Janitor

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    For a DSB at least double the length and one and half the width of the sump you have.

    For a refuge a std two foot tank will do.

    Yes Paul the do work.
     
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    Go give the guy that sold you that sump a klap (what shop still sells them in JHB, cant someone go and help them??). They are terrible, no space for decent skimmer, and no room to work in there... Scrap that sump and rather get a well designed one from the start.
     
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    @Johan - this is not a new setup. I bought it off classifieds. I will look at replacing it in the long term.
     
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    Why don’t you make your own sump, drill your own holes and cutting glass is simplicity with only a few principals to adhere to and its all good.
    Get some cheap glass or ask a shop fitter for some, they usually throw heaps in the bin.
     
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    Check @3dd basic sump during his tank installation. Its the best. You may include a refugium too.
     
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    Thanks, yep sump is very very simple. A fuge would have been nice, but I'm surviving without it for now.
     
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    This is the sump @3dd uses. I would add one more pain of glass, lifted for under flow after the skimmer for a fuge In tthis design.

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  15. 3dd

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    I won't do the compartment lifted, as all the goodies from the fuge is going to go underneath and cleaning would be a nightmare. I'd rather then add a whole set of bubble traps.

    Problem the is that it reduces the space for the skimmer and all the other reactors that are used.

    In this design I decided that the fuge is not that necessary so I left it out completely. Although I'm considering doing a remote one.

    Another problem with putting the fuge inline with everything else is that you can't vary the flow inside, although this might not be such a big problem
     
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