Sump filtration options

Discussion in 'General Discussions and Advice' started by RocketRooster, 22 Jan 2013.

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What option is best for the 'average' sump that has a skimmer?

  1. DSB only

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  2. DSB + Macro

    15.0%
  3. Macro Only

    0 vote(s)
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  4. Nothing except maybe a filter pad

    5.0%
  5. Nothing but reactors.

    5.0%
  6. Live rock only

    5.0%
  7. DSB + LR

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  8. DSB + LR + Macro

    15.0%
  9. The full montipora. DSB + LR + Macro + NP Reactors

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  10. I don't run a sump. I'm hardcore!

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  11. Bio cubes (orca nitra guard)

    35.0%
  12. NP Pellets

    10.0%
  1. RocketRooster

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    A perennial chestnut. What and why?
     
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    Filtration setup options are a personal preference, like a vehicle. Some like double cabs, others hard core 4*4, or sedans, or hot hatchbacks, or sports cars...

    Setups do differ in price. A lot, DSB, cheap. Multitude of reactors plus media plus pumps plus plumbing is obviously more expensive. (obvious duh)

    At the end, the husbandry involved in maintaining each setup that is the deal breaker. Incorrectly setup filters will cause you more work to maintain. Reactors that block is a pain in the neck. Filter socks that overflow out of the sump when you are not there is even worst. Siphoning a DSB surface clean due to settlement is work. Anything where you stand on your knees with your head stuck under your tank is not funny after a while.

    Something you do today with a smile on your face will become a job in 2 months time, while be a schlep to do 6 months from now. So it does not matter what you do, DSB, scrubber, reactors, whatever. It must be as easy to maintain as possible. Least amount of work 6 months down the line. Not today, today does not matter, now you are still so overly eager to work on your tank.
     
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    Okay, so what's the least work?
     
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    a successful installation
     
  6. Fanlie

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    whose bio cubes?
     
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    I'd guess that goes under "reactors"?
     
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    Added 2 options, for science...
    Is that OK @RocketRooster
     
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    no need reactors,no need DSB, and get more space in sump.
    bio cubes need only air bubbles.
     
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    NO! Set is back the way it was! :angry:



    Lol, of course it's okay.
     
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    leslie hempel Moderator MASA Contributor

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    my option not present tto choose from at the top...

    skimmer, return, small refuige for new fish introduction only (experimenting with bio cubes)

    simple simple simple...
     
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    for me its keep it simple too, filter sock, skimmer and carbon.... thats it
     
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    my advice from left to right, 4 chamber sump
    Chamber number/ Items in Chamber
    1 - Return with stocking over turn pipe (cleaned 3 X a week)
    1 - Skimmer in same chamber (Cleaned Daily dependant on livestock)
    2 - DSB/refugium (Surface Gravel vac weekly)
    2 - Phosphaguard GFH - tray suspended over DSB at the later end of the DSB
    3 - Bio-Cubes Bomb method, this is good to have in this chamber if stocking coral if not drop it close to skimmer in 1
    3 - Live rock on eggcrate suspended with power head blowing under the Live Rock Chamber
    4 - Live Rock and Return pump

    Just advised what has worked best for me
     
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    i agree
     
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    Liaqaut Sain's idea on my sump from left to right, 3 chamber sump
    1 - Wool cloth
    1 - Bio cubes
    tussen 1-2 HOF (Phospha, purigen, sometimes carbon)
    2 - Skimmer/ Later Add O3
    3 - Return pump + Chiller
     
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  18. Visser

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    In my newest sump i will have only a filter pad, biocubes & my skimmer to do the job.
    Personally i believe that with enough Nitra-guard biocubes, nothing else is required in the line of biological filtration!
    Im going to put this to the test in my new tank & will do a full review about the ups & downs in a couple of months...
     
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    the simplier the system the better..in the past a "filter" was seen to mechanically catch dirt and form a biological process,

    my personal interpretation of a "filter" is that it is there for extraction via protein skimming, and a chemical interaction (cubes/carbon etc but minimal) but MUST also be kept clean, no detritus, no dead spots..

    the main DT is actually the biological filter as it houses LR, and all you really need to do to it is ensure no sediment or silt lays on your rockwork or substrate..
     
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    a goldfish bowl
     
  21. mandarinman

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    seriously. i think that there is no really easy way. when you start a reef tank you need to commit to the work it takes to look after the inhabitants esp maintaining water perameters. i hate testing but still do it. etc
     
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