Sump Decision...

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  1. Triton

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    Hey All,

    Okay so i got a massive Bubble Blaster C99 Skimmer and its about 10cm too big for my 1 chamber (Skimmer chamber).

    So now i can do the following to get the skimmer in :

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    1) Remove the panel with the red arrow ?

    2) OR put the skimmer in the DSB chamber (Getting rib of my DSB/Refugium) and using the 1st chamber as the DSB/Refugium ?

    Any feedback would help speed up my decision on what to do.

    Oh its a 800L Tank

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  3. Toolboysa

    Toolboysa Moderator

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    You can just remove the first 2 partitions. Then you can leave the rest as is
     
  4. Triton

    Triton Thread Starter

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    dont i need the 3 panels for "Bubble Trapping" ?
     
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    Nope many ways to prevent bubbles. Easiest would be a filter sock or @RiaanP bubble trap he uses on his overflow pipe
     
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    Once the water has gone through the next compartment there shouldnt be any bubbles reaching your return pump.
    If there really are lots of bubbles, you could run skimmer overflow though a filter sock/floss
     
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    Getting bubble in your display and more than likely you are running the water height in the return chamber too low. The waterfall pulls down bubbles, that your return pump pick up, chops into fine little bubble and blows that into your display. Being so fine you suspect your skimmer. But he is innocent this time. Increasing the water height in the last chamber and the problem is solved.

    Unless your system allows for a lot of water to siphon down in the case of a power break. Increasing the risk of flooding the sump. Where you might be in a situation where you cannot increase the water height in the last chamber.

    Even something a simple as turning the return pump so that the inlet is far away as possible from the divider might help. Or an elbow facing down to just above the glass.
     
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    Simple, cheap DIY bubble trap on the downpipe.

    110mm pipe, female end cap. At the bottom cut at 45 degree, so that the pipe stands on the glass bottom, but cannot block up.

    End cap cut just big enough to allow 50mm downpipe. Downpipe extends about 80mm into the water. Endcap got 6 * 5mm air holes to allow air to escape.

    Reduces noise
    Prevents salt spray
    Traps bubbles
    Cheap, easy, and does not take a lot of space.
     
  9. Triton

    Triton Thread Starter

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    Great thanks, guys :thumbup:

    Now the question is.. how do i get the panels out.. easiest way to unglue the silicone..? use a blade?
     
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    Lol jip and good luck with the blade. Its hard if the glass had a tight fit
     
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    or a metal tape measure. It is thinner than a blade.
     
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    Would it not be better removing second and third partition? Increasing the size of the DSB/refugium area.
     
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    yes, normally it would
    But his skimmer does not fit. Needs the space for that.
     
  14. Triton

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    no cause then the skimmer still wont fit in the 1st chamber..
     
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    Depends...are you planning on using the glass again? I found my panels were extremly close to the glass, so it was almost impossible to get blade/tape/wire between them. After a couple of minutes i decided it would be easier to break them.
     
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    Yea thinking of re-using them.. ill try the blade and tape measure :)
     
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    Now the other question thats been bugging me..

    Im running a 800L tank (sump included), Skimmer rated to +- 2500L.. Is there such a think as over skimming? or is this skimmer fine?

    Running a Reeftek TS2 at the moment
     
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    Sorry guys missed that!
     
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    Reeftek ts2 is rated for 700L as far as i know
     
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    Any Feedback?;)
     
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    I run a skimmer of similar size on a 500l tank and i havent seen any negative effects. Granted i over feed and it is an SPS tank.
     
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