Stung by coral or creature

Discussion in 'Urgent Help Needed' started by seank, 18 May 2009.

  1. seank

    seank

    Joined:
    24 May 2007
    Posts:
    11,984
    Likes Received:
    119
    Location:
    North of Durban and South of Mozambique
    Guys, I would like to know something. A local friend of mine got stung/spiked by something under his rockwork last night. He saw a small piece of something in his finger last night but was not able to remove it. Well, the thingie "****ed"(dunno the English word too lekker but in afrikaans we say "die ding het uitgesweer") out during the day.

    He just phoned me saying that his finger is swollen, looks like a "Russian" (the Hot dog Version and not The Vodka Version) and he has a headache as well as feeling Nautious (spelling).

    Any doctors of the reef out there as he wants to know if he need to go to the doctor, and if he has to go to the doctor, what will he need to tell the Doctor??????
     
  2. AdS Guest




    to hide all adverts.
  3. Tony

    Tony

    Joined:
    23 Aug 2008
    Posts:
    4,093
    Likes Received:
    68
    Location:
    Honeydew, Johannesburg
    I think it would be prudent to go to the doctor and tell him what happened. It's probably venom from some creature
     
  4. jacquesb

    jacquesb Retired Moderator

    Joined:
    29 May 2007
    Posts:
    17,868
    Likes Received:
    69
    Location:
    Cape Town
    Sean - I am not a doctor - but am a Rescue Diver (part of the rescue diver training is marine animal toxins).

    There are two things that can be tried:
    - vinegar dip for at least 10 minutes
    - warm (as warm / hot as possible) water dip

    Also - try anti-histamine - both ointment, as well as medication...

    I would DEFINITELY try and get a medical professional to have a look as well.....

    Good luck - I hope that this can bring relief.
     
  5. dallasg

    dallasg Moderator MASA Contributor

    Joined:
    14 Dec 2008
    Posts:
    16,769
    Likes Received:
    582
    Location:
    Sandton
    no doctor, but from doing dive medic courses, the area should be cleaned in hot water, and wrapped in a lint free towel/bandage soaked in white vinager, seeing that the symptoms are getting worse i would say see a doc. most stings/venom from sea creatures are protein based so an anti-histamene or anti-biotic might be given.
    i was stung my a lion fish while diving, and this process was administered.

    better safe, see a doc and mention it was a sea-creature sting/bite
     
  6. seank

    seank Thread Starter

    Joined:
    24 May 2007
    Posts:
    11,984
    Likes Received:
    119
    Location:
    North of Durban and South of Mozambique
    Thanks Guys, he just started vomiting- on his way to the doctor now.

    Any news on Priest Hat Urchins- I read they toxic and I know he has one???
     
  7. jacquesb

    jacquesb Retired Moderator

    Joined:
    29 May 2007
    Posts:
    17,868
    Likes Received:
    69
    Location:
    Cape Town
    What he should say to the doctor:

    He should describe EXACTLY what has happened.... tell the doctor that it is a marine creature sting...... Also - tell the doctor what all have happened since the sting....

    It MIGHT be that your friend MIGHT just be allergic to something. This sounds like a possible allergic trauma reaction.....

    Tell your friend to also keep very still - as the toxic substance MIGHT spread....

    I would call ER24 AS SOON AS your friend starts feeling EXTREMELY HOT all over his body, and as soon as he shows unusual sweating....
    And also - as soon as he/she shows unusual breathing patterns....

    Good luck.
     
  8. dallasg

    dallasg Moderator MASA Contributor

    Joined:
    14 Dec 2008
    Posts:
    16,769
    Likes Received:
    582
    Location:
    Sandton
    Priest Hat Urchins, Tripneustes gratilla, are known to be venomous, atleast he is on his way to the hospital
     
  9. seank

    seank Thread Starter

    Joined:
    24 May 2007
    Posts:
    11,984
    Likes Received:
    119
    Location:
    North of Durban and South of Mozambique
    Yip, he is on his way- told him to tell the Doctor to Log onto Masa and read the Urgent Advice Forum :thumbup:- another Newbie to be joining the Forum, as well as the fact that We'll have a medical Guru here....:lol::lol:

    Sorry guys, jokes aside, this is serious but I could not help seeing the positive outcome of this
     
  10. jacquesb

    jacquesb Retired Moderator

    Joined:
    29 May 2007
    Posts:
    17,868
    Likes Received:
    69
    Location:
    Cape Town
    Great that you have been able to respond and assist so quickly Sean.
    BTW: JUST a quick question - EXACTLY how long ago did this happen?
    Was your friend "red in the face"? Or white?
    How was his/her breathing? Did he/she sweat profusely?
     
  11. dallasg

    dallasg Moderator MASA Contributor

    Joined:
    14 Dec 2008
    Posts:
    16,769
    Likes Received:
    582
    Location:
    Sandton
    i agree it is serious,
    our reef tanks are dangerous places, or can be and mistakes/accidents can happen.

    i would recommend all reefers keep vinegar and "first-aid" near their tanks.
     
  12. seank

    seank Thread Starter

    Joined:
    24 May 2007
    Posts:
    11,984
    Likes Received:
    119
    Location:
    North of Durban and South of Mozambique
    Happened last night sometime, but he said he did not worry too much as he knew that it will "fall"/**** out today. He pinched his finger this morning, forcing the small piece of pin/stick out- and it started swelling litle by little- he thought the swelling would go away but it worsened until about an hour ago, he started feeling nausious (spelling) as well as having headaches, but his breathing is ok. Sorry, the above is not English grammer at its best, but trying to convey the message as fast as possible
     
  13. jacquesb

    jacquesb Retired Moderator

    Joined:
    29 May 2007
    Posts:
    17,868
    Likes Received:
    69
    Location:
    Cape Town
    And READ UP ON MARINE TOXIC CREATURE FIRST AID.......
    D.A.N helps a lot! ;)
     
  14. seank

    seank Thread Starter

    Joined:
    24 May 2007
    Posts:
    11,984
    Likes Received:
    119
    Location:
    North of Durban and South of Mozambique
    HEY MODS, I AM SAYING PULSLS (NOW REMOVE THE DOUBLE L ) It is not a swearword
     
  15. jacquesb

    jacquesb Retired Moderator

    Joined:
    29 May 2007
    Posts:
    17,868
    Likes Received:
    69
    Location:
    Cape Town
    Not a problem, Sean. The nausiousness is typical. It would happen. It's the body's response to try and get the "unknown substance" out of the body. Unfortunately, this only works with ingested toxins..... not with toxins already in the bloodstream.

    He must try and drink a HUGE amount of water, as the toxin WILL most likely dehydrate him.
    The doctor will MOST likely admit him to the local hospital, for 2 nights. Tonight to put him on a drip, and tomorrow night, for observation only....

    If all goes well - he should be back at home on Wednesday.....

    Let's wait and see what the doctor says.... how far is the closest doctor's rooms from you/your friend?
     
  16. seank

    seank Thread Starter

    Joined:
    24 May 2007
    Posts:
    11,984
    Likes Received:
    119
    Location:
    North of Durban and South of Mozambique
    Thanks Jacques, fortunately we have a very good private hospital around the corner, and some Doctor friends of mine on Duty. Thank you guys for all your input
     
  17. jacquesb

    jacquesb Retired Moderator

    Joined:
    29 May 2007
    Posts:
    17,868
    Likes Received:
    69
    Location:
    Cape Town
    LOL Sean - Don't worry - I know what you mean. I do not know why the "system" is removing that word. It describes the natural process of the human body rejecting foreign objects, by generating a substance around the foreign object, which we know as "p-u-s-s"..... ;)
     
  18. jacquesb

    jacquesb Retired Moderator

    Joined:
    29 May 2007
    Posts:
    17,868
    Likes Received:
    69
    Location:
    Cape Town
    No problems, Sean. Hope all works out OK..... Good luck!
     
  19. seank

    seank Thread Starter

    Joined:
    24 May 2007
    Posts:
    11,984
    Likes Received:
    119
    Location:
    North of Durban and South of Mozambique
    Yeah, but this thing that keeps on removing wrong words is definitely not shanana. Try Bass-h-i-ts or s-h-i-t-e-s
     
  20. jacquesb

    jacquesb Retired Moderator

    Joined:
    29 May 2007
    Posts:
    17,868
    Likes Received:
    69
    Location:
    Cape Town
    Perhaps Viper will read this... it MUST have been him that implemented it ;) I am not sure....
     
  21. leslie hempel

    leslie hempel Moderator MASA Contributor

    Joined:
    7 May 2007
    Posts:
    14,533
    Likes Received:
    281
    Location:
    Gonubie East London
    this is terrable to hear, the harshest i have advised on wasa devilfish stinging a customer , basically the injected protein composition needs to be altered and the best wy is to submerse the limb in as hot as water as can be withstood, this coagulates the poisin, but something injected the night before and ruptured today soulds a littlemore serious.. does he know what stung him? the more the doctor knows the better.. good idea to try get him on here.. good work sean,,
     
Recent Posts

Loading...
Similar Threads - Stung coral creature Forum Date
Rabit being stung by corals Marine Fish Discussions 15 Nov 2013
Torch Coral Stung Me LPS Corals 11 Feb 2012
fish got stung by torch General Discussions and Advice 27 Mar 2013
Stung by a sea urchin. General Discussions and Advice 23 Nov 2012
Just got stung by my long spine Urchin... General Discussions and Advice 22 Sep 2011
Urgent help needed Got stung by my hammer Urgent Help Needed 18 Sep 2011
Urgent help needed Copperband sick or stung? Urgent Help Needed 28 Aug 2010