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  1. DeanKoupe

    DeanKoupe

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    Hi all

    My name is Dean.

    I am finally looking at starting marine in the next month or so, but I am scared of going the wrong route!

    I keep a few freshwater tanks and I now want to move to the next level.

    I don't have space for a very large tank, and I have a limited budget :(

    I like the look and price of the JBJ Nano Cube 28g, the RSM and Eheim marine tanks are a bit pricey for me.

    Is the JBJ a good beginner tank? Or what are the other options out there that I should look at?

    All help and advice will be much appreciated.

    Thank you.
     
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  3. Wes

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    hi dean have a look around in the for sale section, I've seen a few Cubes up for sale recently, try that out first and then maybe move onto something bigger and better when you get rid of the Bath water tanks?

    :welcome6:
     
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    Hello and welcome

    Yes, those nano's are nice. there are (maybe was) a few in the for sale section. Just note that being a small system that any changes in water parameters will have an impact. One dead thing will push ammonia levels a lot more than a 250L tank or 500L tank. Need to be sure that you are always in control. Larger tanks are more forgiving.

    Not to say that small is not OK, I started on a 90L. Fast track your experience a lot faster.
     
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    Hey welcome, i have a BOYU TL550...have a look at the members systems, many guys have this tank, its 128litres, the std lighting anf filtration will not allow you to keep too much in the tank but it is a good starter and you can get them at really good prices 2nd hand.
    Good luck bud, Enjoy.
     
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    Goodluck on ur SW adventure. The Boyu TL 550 seems to be good value for money
     
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    Is the JBJ a good tank though?
     
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    Nanocube or JBJ, same thing. Technically the same. Yes, for that size tank its 100%.
     
  9. DeanKoupe

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    Is there any extras I will need to buy for the JBJ besides a heater?

    And what kind of a setup can I create, as in how many fish? What types as well as corals and anemones etc...
     
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    My 5 cent worth of information. Dean i think first you need to understand the biological aspects of what you are going to be doing. I made the mistake of going into a shop bought a small tank and thought....ok so now i need the sea water and the fish and i am good to go. In theory it might work for a week or two, but there after disaster strike and it becomes a very very expensive lesson to learn. You need to determine if you want a tank that will host mostly reef and coral or a mixture of some sort, based on that you will need additional lights ect. Get information about what you are about to buy, what their requirements is from the internet prior to going into a petshop. Don't buy becuase the fish looks pretty (although i love window shopping - inside a tank) i TRY TO REFRAIN FROM DOING SO. Before buying any anemone have your tank be running for 6 months plus. I am sharing here out of my own experience and wish you luck in this exciting hobby...
     
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    Here is a link to some of the Nano's To give you some idea of what can be achieved with a small glass box. :)
    Nano Tank photo's - Marine Aquariums South Africa

    Also, here is a fish guide, indicating more or less what you can add to a tank of specific size
    Nano Fish Listed By Tank Size - Marine Aquariums South Africa

    This may depend on whether you buy a new system or a complete 2nd hand system. For a brand new system, you might also need flow pumps, not sure if the return pump is included.
    If you are lucky, you might get all these included in a second hand setup
     
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    I have a jbj nano cube. It's an awesome tank I'm really enjoying it. Any questions just pm me.

    Good luck.
     
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    I also "converted" from fresh water (still have a few tanks) to marine.

    I have a couple of Boyu 550's. They are really good as starter setups because you learn about all the aspects of maintaing a marine tank.

    The standard lighting is fine to keep softy corals (which you should in any case start with when new).

    With the Boyu water changes are easy (I do 25L a go), cleaning the glass is quick. So it really teaches you everything you need to know and because you require limited arognite, live rock and small fish, you don't have half your mortgage in livestock in the tank (so if you make a mistake it does not result in financial ruin!).

    You can normally pickup a second hand Boyu for around R1500-R2000 (even less if you don't need the stand). Only upgrade I'd consider is the skimmer, but that depends on the skimmer included with the Boyu.

    A sun-sun wavemaker for about R120 is suitable when you start out.

    I had a Boyu running for more than 6 months before I commited to a big tank. And it was useful to experiment learn (and sometimes fail) with the Boyu before I made the commitment (financially and time) to go for a bigger tank.
     
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    A very WARM WELCOME to MASA, Dean! Great to have you on-board!
     
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    Boyu TL550 gets my vote:thumbup:
    Easy plug and play tank. Can be run standard if you starting out.
    Can keep softies and some lps and all nano fish.
    And as a beginner, thats where you would start.

    Good luck and welcome.
     
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    welcome....
     
  18. DeanKoupe

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    Are these Aquaria tanks okay for a first time beginner?
     
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    My first tank was the 37l and is still running (over a year now) :)
    The only downside is that it doesn't come with a stand but I had mine on the kitchen counter and that worked well for me. From what I understand it has a similar setup to the boyu's.
    The tank is plug and play (don't use the ceramic rings that come with it though, they trap a lot of detritus), has good lighting for softies and LPS, comes with a decent skimmer and pump as well as a little refugium at the back for chaeto/caulp. You will need a heater though.
     
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    Do you have pictures of your 37l setup?
     
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    Not a recent one, will have to take a pic and upload tonight. :)
     
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