Starting a new tank :)

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  1. Yvonne

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    Hi,
    we finally starting the marine tank now I'll post pics later :) .

    Can I put all the liverock in at once or should it be put in in stages?
    And we should have the tank filled up with R/O water by tonight and the salt in and everything, so will it be fine to put the liverock in on the weekend?

    What is pink stuff on liverock from Sri Lanka? is it good or common and how much should it cost?
     
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    Hi Yvonne

    Place all your liverock in the tank at once.

    Good liverock can cost anything up to R169 per kilo.

    If you look around you can get for much cheaper.

    The pink stuff is fine

    Could you give an idea of your setup ?
     
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    thank u :) I'll post pics just now when there's enough water in it, but it is a 330 L tank.
     
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    Hi Yvonne, When I started my tank , recently, I put the Salt water in and put the live rock in immediately there after.

    oh and Welcome.
     
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    Welcome to MASA! Please give us some more info on your tank so we can assist in the process, remember a tank must go through a cycling process for 6 to 8 weeks before any fish are added!

    Look forward to the pics!:)
     
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    What goes in after the Liverock, corals first or fish?
     
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    The cycle takes weeks by the way - dont add any fish before the cycle is done, it could kill them at worst and torture them at best. There is ammonia in the water during the cycle which is poisonous to fish
     
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    Depending on the sand, live rock etc the cycling could take several weeks.

    Read the link in my previous post it will explain most of it.
     
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    Interesting Sump, don't want to say too much- the gurus will point it out, but it seems that your buffers ain't right. Especially the first compartment
     
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    Hi and welcome to MASA. Very nice looking tank you got there!

    I see that you have nothing in your filtration systems that gets rid of Nitrates. When your tank cycles it basically goes through the breakdown of Ammonia to Nitrite, then Nitrite to Nitrate. Now both Ammonia and Nitrite are poisonous to fish and coral, but fish can accept high levels of Nitrates although corals can't.

    For newbie’s like yourself I usually recommend a Deep Sand Bed to brake down nitrates, but due to the limited space you have there are many other options to consider.
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    hey :)

    so what must i buy to put in the sump and in which compartment must it go in ?
    Getting the L/R on monday can't wait :p.
    Tnx for the link on the algae cycle will read through it now :).
     
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    Welcome To Masa....

    I have an identical system to yours and 6 weeks on, I'm starting to put some goodies in there. I have learned an amazing amount from the members here at MASA and I would encourage you to do the same. These guys have nothing to gain but help for the love of the hobby...(hobby... an understatement... more like a way of life now...)

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    another of those limiting sumps. (Ok jump on me...)
    They fine and 100% ok for fish only systems, but not for hard corals.

    Can you put the skimmer in a plastic tub, even a 5L icecream tub. If anything do leak, then at least the cupboard stays dry. Or else just a standard 45L Daro tank, maybe even smaller. From any pet shop.

    The skimmer is not in the first compartment (they normally are). That gives you more options. If you do not want to change the sump, make the first compartment a DSB, second filled with liverock pieces or even bioballs. Just get balls that float (not all do) so that the bottom will stay clean and can be flushed easily.

    Else if you are willing to tjop and change, I will take out both glass partitions from the left.

    Anyway to prevent sand storms, put a 90L degree on the inlet, have a horizontal PVS piece with holes or slats cut on top to the left (11'o clock position) To distribute the water more evenly over the sand, and prevent sand storms.

    I'm just worried on the diameter of the down pipe, before the skimmer. Looks like 20 or 25mm. Normally that is 50mm. Be careful in selecting your return pump. So you do not pump up more water than your overflow line can handle. Not too big a problem, add a T piece on return pump, and direct some water back to DSB.

    Lastly, hello and welcome
     
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    The guys will correct me but Fish first as they are the majority of your Bio Load. Also not loads of fish at a time. 1 or 2 and then wait a couple of weeks. Slowly Slowly.......

    OH and something I learnt recently. When adding Fish DO NOT rush the process even if the fish looks dead or in trouble. If you rush it you will not be helping the fish but killing the fish.
     
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    Hey Riaan :) ,

    I bought bioballs, activated carbon, sponges, ceramic tubes and aragonite. Will it work fine for corals now if I put a DSB with the aragonite in the first compartment and layers of the other stuff in the second compartment?

    The return pump has a valve on it so it's adjustable at the back of the tank.
     
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