SPS predator tank

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  1. TaahirS

    TaahirS MASA Contributor

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    OK guys, there are very little predator tanks on the forum. So maybe this could be a future project for me.(when I have money:lol:)

    I'm thinking over 1000 display tank. Will obviously have to get a huge skimmer.

    Is it possible to keep predators with coral? Any suggestions as to which fish?

    This is my list so far...
    This is just a shortlist an I do not intend to keep all of them when hopefully in a few years time:biggrin: I can start on this project.

    Dogface puffer(I'm not so sure about this, I reckon he will decimate my SPS???
    Russle lionfish
    Antennata lionfish
    Russle's lionfish
    Snowflake moray
    Picasso trigger
    Blue throat triggers x2
    Miniatus grouper?

    Also want to keep some non predatory fish.
    Like butterflies. Maybe a teardrop or a copperband. A navarchus angel. Maybe some tangs. A foxface too.

    Any input will be great!

    And again, don't expect this to happen anytime soon.:blush::tt2::whistling:
     
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    No reason why you can't keep predators with coral...provided your filtration can keep the water clean

    Puffers will peck coral, so stick to lionfish, eels and groupers
    Butterlies and angels won't work, if it fits in a predators mouth they will be eaten.

    Your fish list sounds more like you want a mixed reef, are you sure you after a predator tank?
     
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    Ya, more like a mixed reef with some predators thrown in.
     
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    I don't think a navarchus angel will get eaten?
     
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    Scorpion fish? Can that be kept with coral?
     
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    Yes
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    Most predator fish will consume fish and inverts, corals are safe
     
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    Depending on size, a navachus can get eaten. But then an angel will most likely nip coral
     
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    I've got a few predators in my reef tank.

    Comet, antennata lionfish, paperfish. They're all fairly small predators, so there isn't much you can't keep them with. You have to target feed them with forceps or the wrasses grab the food though.

    The comet (Calloplesiops) in particular is an awesome fish. Quite shy, but super hardy and really stunning. They're quite a low metabolism fish...they don't eat much and they grow really slowly. Mine is 6 years old and not max size yet. Not one you see in LFS very often these days unfortunately.

    Quite an easy species to breed too. Little ones are cute:

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    Can the small mini lion fish be kept in a mixed reef with shrimps and snails? Or will they be eaten one by one
     
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    Coral banded shrimp, yes. Not cleaners, fire shrimp etc.

    Fine with snails.
     
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    Any chance you have some fry? I've really been interested in keeping one of these guys.
     
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    Hi Taahir,

    I have a 1600 predator tank. All advice i can give you is dont get a undulated trigger. I just have live rock, a huge deltec skimmer and predators like alot of flow/ current in the tank.

    My fish are:

    - Clown Trigger
    - Picasso Trigger
    - Zebra Eel
    - Majestic fox face
    - Sailfin Tang
    - Pink Wrasse
    - Some puple angel
    - A mud skipper looking.
    - Sea urchin
    - Sand anenome

    I had a few fish that died.

    - Ear spot angel
    - Emperor angel
    - voliton lion
    - Blonde nasso tang.

    Hope that helps. i have had it running for six months now, and all of them get along just fine.

    Dane
     
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    Thanks!!! @DaneMac
    How did the lionfish die?
    I've read posts about triggerfish nipping at their spine.
     
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    I got some disease in the tank, while i was at work. so not to sure. all the fish went into quarantine, put a 55w UV in and another pump to help with circulation. That seems to have done the trick.
     
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    Trigger fish like to have there own space in the tank and i dont have a problem with them as they have more than enough space
     
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    So I reckon that this is looking more like a predator fish lineup.

    Snowflake eel
    Scorpionfish x3
    Antennata lionfish x2
    Miniatus grouper
    Bamboo shark
    Comet(If I can find one)
    Blue throat triggers x2
    Convict tangs x3(Just because I like convict tangs)
    Naso tang
    Maybe a boxfish, a foxface or another lionfish.

    All of these seem to be compatible with corals. Correct me if I'm wrong...

    Which corals won't I be able to keep?
    Zoas maybe?
    Brains, Short tentacled plates?
    Hammers, torches etc.?

    Thanks guys.
     
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    Going to need a big tank for all those fish
     
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    Yep, how big do you reckon?
    1000 litres? Or more?
     
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    Would probably pass on the grouper and eel. They're really aggressive feeders and you'll struggle to get food to the slower fish. Zebra moray is a better option. Ribbon eel too if you can find a healthy one that is feeding. They'll both need a really secure cover.

    You could keep most corals with those species.
     
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    Looking at the price tag of the zebra eel is rather just not ass on the eel and grouper completely. What size tank do you reckon?
     
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