Urgent help needed Something wrong with my Colt

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  1. JS

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    Hi All

    Something is wrong with my Colt coral. Last 2 days I have noticed it shrinking, and last night it just looked bad. Also noticed 2 small pieces have fallen from it.....

    My parameters:
    No2 - 0
    Am - 0
    No3 - 2.5ppm
    Ca - 430
    Mg - 1300
    Alk - 8 dkh
    Ph - 7.7 - 8 (between the 2 colours on the salifert kit)
    Temp - 26
    Iodine - undectable - started dosing iodine supplement (1ml once on sunday)

    All test doen with salifert test kits.

    My system is a boyu TL 550 - 15kg (3-5cm aragonite) substrate, 17kg LR, run a WG-310 skimmmer, Purigen, Phosguard, and Cheato.

    System is about 3 months old, and stocked with:

    2 Clowns
    1 Blenny
    2 Turbo's
    1 Cleaner

    Small frag of zoa's, cabage leather, yellow polyps and brown polyps.

    Everything else in the tank is fine!! So I am so confused.....would hate to loose the Colt.

    How he looked last week:
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    And last night :(

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    what can I do to help him?
     
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  3. saaid

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    Hectic man,looks like its falling apart. Take it out and smell it. I have the same coral,that happend to me as well but only lost two branches then a month later I ended up with 4 trees as it grew apart from the base.
     
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    that coral looks like its on it way out.

    Place it in a bowl of tank water and see if pieces fall off it, dont re-use the water, throw it away, some soft corals release toxins when dying

    you can try fragging it to save some of the pieces. choose a health looking branch and use a sharp razor blade, but the piece off, soak in tank water with 1ml iodine for 5min, the throw away water and place frag on a small rock and use some gut to tie it down.

    thats my suggestion. how long did you have it?

    but lets see if my diagnosis is right, @Nemos Janitor might be able to help
     
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  5. JS

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    Its been in the tank 2 weeks, I did smell it - smells fine, and it even slimed up a little......the pieces that fell off - almost seemed better this morning, they lokked like the have swollen etc

    Really sad, as this was my fav thing in the tank.....
     
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    I agree with what Dalls says.
    Also check it for any parasites when you take it out.
    It looks rather bright pink in the pics, is there a chance that it might be dyed?
     
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    I have no idea if it was dyed - but the bright pink colour was why i liked it so much.....:(

    Thanks for all the advice so far.
     
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    @JS hi
    your nitrates are to high and your ph is way off
    u need to correct ph and nitrates corals dont like them high ph should be 8.2 and nitrares around 0 or 0.02ppm
    waty kinda tank u got
     
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    alot of the imports are dyed, with softies if the colour looks to good to be true, it normally is
     
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    @mandrin there is nothing wrong with his params, i run my softie tank at around 10ppm, nitrates are only really leathal around 40ppm plus, just causes hastles with algae.
    @JS the ph swing should only occur at night as normal, what is the ph during the day?
     
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    Thanks.
    @ dallasg - Please explain the Ph swing - when should I take the reading? The 8 was taken just before I switched my lights off.
     
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    when you turn of your lights, animals in the tank, all of them, use O2 and expell CO2 which lowers your PH, when your lights are on the reverse happens, CO2 is used. that why when you have a refugium you run it in reverse light cycle with your DT.
     
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    +1

    Most soft corals prefer higher nitrate is anything.

    I also reckon it's dyed. One of the most commonly dyed corals IME. Colts are usually indestructible if bought healthy and other livestock would be showing symptoms before a colt would.
     
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    Thanks, I will test in the moring before my lights go onthen, and during the day.
     
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    Everything else in the tank look great - in fact I have never seen my yellow polups looks as good as they currentlky are, my cabage frag seems to be growing at a pace and my zoa's are stunning.....

    Wonder if he maybe was sick when i got him? :( Do you think the dyes they use to do this caused issues? (now I know not to buy the coolest looking one.....)
     
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    Yep, sorry dude but survival rate on dyed corals is dismal. Chew out your LFS for selling them and ask for a refund.
     
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    I returned mine, got a refund and don't support them anymore.
     
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    Definitely dyed and soon will have died. You might be lucky and have some of it survive, but be sure not to let it die in the tank, as it is quite a bioload for the system to handle.
     
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    Hi Guys

    Just an update. Pulled it out to do a Iodine dip - however, I think it was too far gone.....very soft, mushy and it started to smell funny......I did however manage to cut 2 frags from it (the only 2 that still looked like they can survive and felt nice and firm), rubber banded them to live rock, quick dip in clean tank water and popped them back in the tank - this morning they seemed fine, slowly starting to expand and the polypy things are open. Hopefully they survive.

    Thanks for everyones input!

    Also, I did test my Ph before the lights went on today - 8, it was also 8 when I tested it last night before the lights went off......is this normal, or should it have dropped during the night?
     
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    It will be highest before lights out, and lowest first thing in morning before lights come on.
    That's why if dosing kalkwasse, its advantageous to do at night to help offset ph drop.
     
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