Some advice for a beginner please :)

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  1. King_Triton

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    Hi Guys,

    Been a while since my first post.

    I have completed building my tank :yeahdude: , and have it setup for about a week and a half now.

    i am using a 4FT as my DT and a 3 FT as my sump.

    Everything was going well, and I tested for ammonia and nitites and Nitrates. Ammonia is close to Zero and nitrites have reached it maximum and dropping.

    My cousin was coming over and got me 2 yellowtail damsels and a hermit crab, so i added them in instead of having him drive almost 2 hours with them in the bag again. ( I would not have added these fish so early and only did that to avoid them dying on the way back. I am all for fishless cycling!!!)

    The fish and hermit are doing very well, they eat and are starting to finally come out from behind the LR. The crab was at home from the second i put him in. explored the entire tank the first night and cleans all my rocks. The L/R just keeps me amazed day after day, always finding something new growing on them, so awesome!!! :biggrin:


    I used R/O water and the sand i used was from a mature tank.

    Yesterday I noticed that there was a brownish algae, which i think is a diatom bloom, as per a lot of articles online. I immediately dropped the light period from 12 hours to 4 hours, and use the sump light instead. By doing this I hope i dont lose anything growing on the L/R :( (Besides the algae)

    This seems to have slowed the growth down a little bit. I have just been topping up water due to evaporation but have not done any water changes.

    My questions are:

    1) What else can be done to remove or slow down the algae growth? i will be getting some cheato from Dallas_g this weekend. (Thanks Again!!! :thumbup:) The last thing i want is for my tank to be ruined by algae and i need to do some major clean up work.

    2) how wet should the content in the skimmer cup be? at the moment it looks kinda like green tea with some muck in it.

    3) For the sump light I am using a Jebo Grow Flux UV light, is this light fine to be used over the sump? The sump has a fuge with a DSB and the cheato will be going in here. ( My thoughts when using the UV light over the sump was that it would hopefully kill some parasites while allowing the organisms housed in the fuge to live/grow as its a grow flux light)

    4) Okay this is one that I really am not sure about. Tank flow... Okay so this is what i did. on my return line, i tapered the end of a 90 degree elbow so that i get a stronger flow out of that, and using that to get surface flow... I also have a wave maker on the same side with the flow at a slightly lower level. is there a basic rule of thumb regarding this? in what direction should the water flow? is it recommended to have flow from opposite sides of the tank or should i keep it the way it is now coming from the same side and flowing toward the overflow?? Also how do you know when you have enough? My fear is having too much flow and the fish getting too tired of having to constantly swim in high flow water.

    I know that most of you will ask for pics of the tank setup so you can be more accurate with the advice, I will post as many as i can tomorrow, in the meantime, any advice will be highly appreciated.

    Thanks in advance!!! :) Still learning more day by day so please forgive any rookie mistakes :blush:
     
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    dallasg Moderator MASA Contributor

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    1. adding the cheato will, also need to test your params, bring about 200ml of tank water with you and we can test it, could be your NO3 and PO4 levels, these will be elevated due to livestock additions and the filter not ready

    2. thats fine for now

    3. UV like that is a waster, you want 6500k/yellow light for your cheato, use a warm white energy saver cfl

    4. as much flow as you can have without your gravel blowing around, random chaotic flow is great, the flow is used to removed waste from the corals that they create so they dont stew in their own jiuces :) fish also like it, and it helps stop water stagnation
     
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    Keep you nutrients low (NO3 and PO4). But your tank will go through cycles of algae as it matures eventually it will sort itself out if you do your part. Whatever you do dont panick and throw tons of chemicals in

    Depends on how you skimming but colour sound good. Green tea to black is what I get in mine

    K this scares me if I understand you correctly. Is the UV bulb the type found in a UV sterilizer? If yes you are doing damage to your self damage as the plastics around it.

    No such thing as to much flow. To get some nice random flow have two powerheads face each other
     
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    Looks like i will be getting at least another wave maker to put on the opposite side. What should i pay attention to when getting one?
     
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    what is the make of your current one?

    things to look out for: budget
    cant go wrong with sunsun pumps, they are cheap and effective, and if need replacing wont break the bank.

    if budget is not a worry, then go for more main stream pumps like vortechs or tunze :)eek:)
     
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    Nope. This is a UV growlight, like a normal florescent tube, but gives out UV color (purple like) I do have a dolphin UV steriliser which was given to me, but not using it as i dont know how old the bulb is and cant find a replacement.


    I think I will move the current wave maker to the opposite side just for now, until i get another
     
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    Hahahahaha... Budget is always a problem. this tank costed me R2000 to get running. I ended up getting all the equipment, base rock, and sand/crushed coral on gumtree for 800 bucks :)

    I do recall looking at the sunsun wave makers, will probably go for that.
     
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    use your UV, new globes for very cheap from Lamp House in Linbro park
     
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    sorry i see what you mean, you mean i should use the UV steriliser
     
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    I will type slower :p

    USE
     
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    LOL... Still in the office... so you know why:p
     
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    Thought you meant keep the UV light im using over the sump
     
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    Should the flow be in the water till just above the substrate?
     
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    flow must be everywhere
     
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    If you get the Sun Sun remember to also get the magnet mount. The magnet mount is reusable when the pump fails and is a good long term purchase. The suction cups fail eventually and cause the pump to drop or point down and cause a massive snow dome effect in your tank. Substrate everywhere! Andre from reefaquatics was very helpful with pumps, magnet mounts and postage.

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    Hi again guys.. got those pics as promised.

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    More pics...

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    those are all peepz.. if anyones awake out there please share your thoughts and shed more light.

    Thanks again everyone!!! :)
     
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    Dont worry, the masa midnight mafia only wake up now....
    I would suggest you try and open up the aquascaping a little. You want flow to get into as many nooks and crannies as possible.
    The aquascaping does look good nonetheless.

    Is that a jebo skimmer? They are unfortunately not all that great, as budget allows, replace it asap?

    As mentioned, meep adding more flow... You will know its enough when water starts sloshing over the side, LOL!
    Not familiar with those blue lamps in refugium, but would prefer something a bit more yellow, but if the lamp is designed to grow green stuff, then keep it. Put it on a reverse daylight cycle, i.s. when tank lights go off, it goes on, or run it 24/7.
    You asked about the diatoms? Add some gfh, we use it for phosphate control, but it also sucks up diatoms food, ie silicates!
    Look at deltec's rowaphos or Orca phosphaguard.
     
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