sea-horse sightings

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  1. hypn

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    Hi Guys

    because I have been waiting ever so patiently for my overseas shipment of seahorses to arrive, I was wondering if there has been any Sea-horse sightings in the trade. I missed on two beauties in Roodepoort a few weeks ago and would hate to know there are one or two waiting for a new home.

    Has anybody seen any for sale "country wide" and if so would you please pm me, I would be very keen on making a purchase

    Thanks

    Andre
     
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    i've not seen any for a long time iether. if i do spot some i'll let you know, they have been in the PE shop from time to time. i too have a jebo home w8ing if you should find more than you want to keep
     
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    Will keep you in the loop
     
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    I saw at a lfs in BENNONI cbd last week .
    they had about 5 in a small nanno.
     
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    I also saw last week at exotic in boksburg
     
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    Thanks NSTEYN and ARAGORN, will follow up these leads tomorrow. Any specifics on the Benoni shop please - I did not even know about a dealer in Benoni
     
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    Last i saw was at Lanzos place at dory pets.
    But it seems like you know how to keep them.
    Cont you give us a bit of info please !!
     
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    Hi Schaun,

    have a search through the forums, there was a extensive chat and some nice links recently on the keeping of sea-horses. I am currently waiting for some dwarf sea-horses from the states as well as one or two other breeds all able to feed on frozen food.

    The big problem with Sea-horse breeding and keeping is
    1. They need a tank of their own, mixing species is not even recommended.
    2. They are BIG eaters and it takes a long time to get them to except frozen food, that is if you succeed at all.
    3. Many species mate with one partner for live. If the horses are wild caught they will often not breed because the male and female only spend time around each other at night.
    4. Cities permits place restriction on sizes, often these sea-horses are older and no longer viable as breeders, also semi wild caught (kept in cement holding tanks for the Chinese medicine trade) and therefore infected with worms and other infections.

    I am in the process of starting a Sea-horse visitors centre, and breeding station, especially since the African continent has some fine sea-horses. H.Giraffe being one of them.

    The ability to get variety at this time allows for some hope when it comes to breeding and rearing on frozen food, which in turn can then be carried across to dealers in the country again.

    You will be amazed to find that we have several local and even one overseas member very active in keeping these guys. One you set up a separate unit for them and food is not a daily challenge they become amazing animals.

    You are more than welcome mailing me if you need info, gladly oblige

    Andre
     
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    Hey Andre what's the update on the dwarfs shipment?
     
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    We wait !!!!!!!!!
    I am such a impatient guy but things in the States take time. The applications are in, permits have been given numbers (eg. my one permit is number 58 in line), something we don't see in South Africa and it looks like there is a BIG chance that we will only be getting Tank raised horses thanks to a certain companies oil leak negligence but this is pure speculation on my part.

    I was told to be ready July and early September as they ship one week after clearance. Pity for us is that the guys in the states are giving away dwarfs because they are breeding so well yet our order has to be processed as the winter hits their shores.

    Most important we are still on track and several species are in the process of making their way here, tank bred and frozen food eaters.
     
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    just a reminder the dwarfs will not eat frozen food - even where dealers claim otherwise. They take a day or two too figure out that they are being tricked into something they don't want - LOL
     
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    I have been chatting with anemone Brenda about these dwarf ponies & she said that the dwarfs don't take to frozen & I don't really mind hatching brine as I hatch them anyway for some of my freshwater fish.
     
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    Usually the local shop gets WC Tigertail seahorses (H. comes) that will initially only take live foods, are nocturnal feeders, relatively old and the young are not able to eat nhbs. Not a good choice.
     
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    You should be getting captive bred, no? Were you wanting wild caught?
     
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    thanks for the heads up steve;) guess i'll have to w8 for you guy's then
     
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    I think they are amazing creatures, would love to keep them in a separate system.
    But i should try and finish the current one.
     
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    They are truly amazing pity it's so difficult to bring them in.:(

    Andre did you not mention that there could be a possibility that you could get dwarfs via Australia?
     
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    Enrichment for hatched brines? Have you thought about that? Without enrichment, no long term keeping possible!
     
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    I have not followed up on my possible Australian contact BUT that is because our order of captive bred sea-horses are being processed. It just a time game before they arrive.

    I initially tried to add a second order of wild caught dwarfs with the hope that we could strengthen the gene pool in South Africa and as I mentioned both orders are being processed.

    I have no doubt that the breeder Brenda arranged for us will deliver. It's a matter of patience for all of us. Only 2 or 3 more months and they are here .

    In the interim I am shopping around to see if we have a accidental species other than for H.Comes, at dealers (I have seen others but as mentioned before age is a problem). It would be nice to find a young breeding pair by accident, and it has happened to me a few years ago.

    Bite the bullet guys, our American cousins are definitely coming !!!!
     
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    If you do see them then and want to try them, I can advise on how we kept them, it is not impossible to keep them, but would require collecting of live foods at least twice a week.
    With the young, initial feeding with rotifer for several days may get them large enough to take nhbs. I think other species of seahorse are better choices, especially for first time keepers.
     
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