Sea cucumber good or bad

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  1. CW

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    Hi ppl

    Pleas help with some info.
    Is a sea cucumber good or bad?

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    It's good!! we have them in our reef tank at the two oceans aquarium and they do a lovely job of keeping the sand clean.
    They are however not the most attractive thing to look at
     
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    Cos i got two of them with two clowns and 3chromises in one bucket today and it seam like the killed them.

    The chromises where dead on arival and the clowns dont seam well at the moment.
    The cucumbers and clowns are in the tank now.
     
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    i think when the cucumbers gets harassed they release a toxin.
     
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    thats true for sea apples which are a species of cucumber but i think the black ones are safe, i could be wrong but andrea wouldnt put them in our reef tank at the two oceans if they werent safe
     
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    Ja i also read that on live aquerias website.
    Can the fish recover from the toxins?
     
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    does this specific species release toxins aswell?? anyone??? I have heard of sea apples completely wiping out tanks, fish corals, everything. so I am very curious......
     
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    ja please. i would also like to know. @RiaanP, u know them maybe?
     
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    if no-one knows, i will email Andrea at the two oceans
     
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    I had to dive a whole range of these cumber variants mainly H. whitmaei to stay alive.....
    Still cant believe people are willing to pay to eat this stuff...
    Some release toxins, Especially from the Actinopygia Agassizi okes, but some others from the actinopygia family are also prone to release toxins. Google holuthurin...
    Another self defence mechanism of cucumbers is to "vomit" (eviscerating) out their stomachs, intended to give their attackers an easy meal whilst leaving the cucumber unharmed..
    They grow back their guts thereafter... :)
    Yes, sea apples are toxic too. Difficult to id the species from the pic via phone, but if they are pinned to be the culprits in your bucket..... Imagine what they can do to your reef:(
    If you want a safer option, Holothuria hilla, tiger cucumbers are a lot less deadly.... And less likely to wipe out your tank...
    Not sure if they are as prized by the chinese as Holothuria whitmaei.. Yuk!
     
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    reat. PM me his email please.

    Thanx
     
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    Hi Chris, all cucumbers release toxins and or expell there stomach contents when they are stressed and there by fouling the water severly. The toxin isn't as strong as the sea apple, but it can be nasty. Always make sure you have good carbon running. Also the toxin doesn't seem to affect any invertebrate.
     
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    Andrea is a 'she' :)
    will PM u it asap
     
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    :lol::lol::lol: oops
     
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    Both clowns dead now. Dont knnow if i wana let them go now, kind of payed for them already. hehe

    HEHE
    Oops ja. HAHA
    Soz Andrea.

    Dident read properly
     
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    So what do you want to give me for them carlos.
    Dont know if im alowed to sell them or not.

    Or if you wana swop for fish of coral. Lets have a negotiation about this, hehe:thumbup:
     
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    I will pay for them, just let me know. So sorry about the clowns. I could swop you two of mine, just because you're my buddy!
     
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    I decided to keep one of the cucumbers. You can have the other one.
    The one is about 180mm long and the other about 100mm
    Im thinking of letting the big one go now.

    So what do you have to swop for the big cucumber?
    What fish or what coral?
     
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    they arent normally poisenous but they can "nuke" a tank where if they get highly streesed they expel their inards to distract the predetor that will kill EVERYTHING in your tank but they can also release a toxin through their skin the clowns may make it depending on how long they were exposed but if you keep them happy they will live and thrive :D
     
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