Sea Cucumber Advice?

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  1. Jaco Schoeman

    Jaco Schoeman MASA Contributor

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    Hi Guys

    I am getting this baby from my dad tomorrow. Have done all my research I can but is there anything else I might wanna know about introduction etc?

    I would appreciate it if you dont tell me they are nuke bombs in powerheads, as I know this and I have no powerheads (CLS;)) so I need positive advice please...

    Anyone that can ID this sea cucumber?

    Thanks

    Here's a pic, I will post better pics on Monday

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    Hey Jaco, I've got a simple black cucumber and to be perfectly honest I could do without it. It hides between rocks and I very seldomly see it. I do worry about it fouling my water though. Your's looks a little more attractive but often colour is a sign of toxins, poisons. I'd just do the standard introduction process and it will find a spot it like. Hopefully its where you can enjoy its presence.
     
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    Jaco Schoeman Thread Starter MASA Contributor

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    Thanks Pads. How "affected" are they in the presense of fish? I have a yellow watchman goby staying in the only realy "hiding" spot in the tank, other than that is basically open rock.

    I ahve however read they do a great job a sifting your substrate at night, and they eat "leftovers" etc. hence the addition to the NPS tank.
     
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    Don't keep this sea cucumber with fish Jaco. I lost 13 out of 15 fish due to one getting stuck on a powerhead..... the cuke released a nerve toxin which made my fish drown,....

    Other than that - they are awesome detritus removers....
     
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    Jaco Schoeman Thread Starter MASA Contributor

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    Hey Jacques... Again, I have no powerheads at all, not intake no nothing that would suck anything in as I run a CLS. I even have no aggressive fish that might have any need to take a nip at it, so i think it really is quite safe... ;) Thank you for your concern however, and I hope that I dont ever have to post a loss ratio of fish like that... EINA!!!
     
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    Jaco, I've never seen mine on the substrate, only amongst the rocks. The fish have totally ignored the cucumber. Not even my trigger has seem the slightest bit interested. Thats why i said I could do without it as I can't see the benefit of having one.
     
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    Sea cucumbers are really fantastic detrivores. They clean the top +-1cm of the substrate 100% perfectly clean from detritus.....
     
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    Maybe mine is a social recluse. Or has a sand phobia. :p
     
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    i got one similar but myn is a sea apple from the great barier reef had myn a year but lfs did not tell me thay are toxic but myn been fine myn is red purpe and yellow check a site called www.seaapple.co.za
     
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    Becareful, that WILL NUKE YOUR TANK
     
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    Hi guys what Jacquesb says is 100% correct but what i found that when sea apples are on they way out, they loose col and start to shrink and when i say shrink to a marble size,so when you see this happen remove at once and flush,other wise you will have a load of ****ttt
     
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    Sea Apples are not detrivores at all. They filter feed. So - if you WANT to keep a sea apple alive, then you should feed the whole tank phytoplankton and rotifers.

    That said - IF sea apples do die, or stress, they do the exact same as sea cucumbers: eject a neurotoxin into the water - which affects the nervous systems of the fish (I think only vertebrate life - meaning fish, is affected by this), which paralyzes fish.

    Meaning - fish suffocate because they cannot breath - causing them to die.
     
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