Urgent help needed Scopas Tang fighting New Bristletooth Tomini Tang

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  1. iggy

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    Hi Guys

    i currently have a Scopas Tang in my tank now for a year and yesterday i got a new Bristletooth Tomini Tang from my LFS.

    now my bad in not reading up on the Bristletooth Tomini Tang before i bought it.
    but now the problem is my Scopas is attacking the Tomini Tang.
    the guy @ LFS said that this would not happen as they are different Species and everybody in my tank would be cool with him in there ..... NOT!!!!!!.....:eek:

    But it does not help to cry over spilled milk now...

    how do Can i stop the scopas from killing my Tomini???

    my lights are currently of at the moment it helps but i cant keep it of for to long..

    Please Help...
     
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  3. Nur

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    i put a net in the tank, but this might stress out other fish aswell..
    i just leave it there and everyone goes to hide. then i take it out to feed then put it back again.. for me 2 days later all is good..
     
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    dallasg Moderator MASA Contributor

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    they shouldnt fight, what size tank?

    you can divide the tank with egg crate

    its a terriotorial thing
     
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    Try placing a small mirror on the side of the tank. The scopas will fight with himself for a while and give the other one time to settle
     
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    My tank is a 240L 1200x450x450

    Dividing My tank is a little bit of a problem as my LR has a lot of tunnels and my Scopas discovered every one last night as it gunned down the Tomini.

    will it help to leave the lights off for a day will my corals die?

    how do i put a net in my tank do i catch the Tomini or divide the tank with the net?

    see a pic of my tank [​IMG]
     
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    What size are the fish?
     
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    the scopas is +/- 8cm from head to fin and the Tomini is +/- 10cm. and my the dude LFS said my tank is fine for the Tomini?
     
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    How badly are they fighting? Is the scopas doing damage or is it more like just flaring fins?
     
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    the fighting is intense the scopas will wait ton the far side of the tank and wait for the tomini to show its head and then gun at him at full speed til he hits him...

    for how long can i leave the light off before it does damage to my corals?
     
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    lights can be off for 2 days
     
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    I have the same problem... The scopas thinks he is "Da Boss Man".. I bought a Yellow, he almost killed him.. now I have a CBB , same story.

    Guess who is going to my Q-Tank tommorow for at least a week ???
     
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    cool thanks for the help guys.

    now question: how do you catch a fish in a tank that has a million hiding places??
     
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    make a fish trap from a empty 2L coke bottle

    cut off the part where the funneling starts, then cut of the tappered bit so that the fish can just swim in, invert it back in to the other loose part, tape it together with insulation tape, add some food to the closed chamber and float in the tank, fish will swim in and not swim out... takes time and practice
     
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    Patience!
     
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    Just rest the net anywhere in the tank and leave it there for a day or two, move it around every couple of hours, it should distract the fish. Normally I would say give it a day or two as aggression normally calms down once they get used to each other being in the same tank, but your Scopas sounds really vicious so I don't know. Trying to catch either one of them is going to be a hell of a job.
     
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    Tangs are always terrotorial (well at least the ones I had and got). I had a yellow tang that was 'gun ho' for my CBB when I added her, I tried the "mirror" technique (stuck a mirror on my tank with prestick), didn't work, gave the tang more food, didn't work, landsape change, didn't work, switch my lights off for six hour a day for 5 days, didn't work.
    So out of desperation I put her in my sump for four days, THAT WORKED. I was glad that yellows are hardy, she even ate while in the sump.
    Today, well she got to big for my tank so I swopped her at idol marine for a small naso and Royal gramma!
    She was sold in a day or two. She was such a great fish, really beatufull and almost 12cm long!
    I hope things work out for you!
    Be patient as well, I have heard that they will usually sort themselves out, but Inever had the B%&^# for that!
    Let us know what happens!
     
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    I must agree with Rakabos. Placing a mirror in the tank worked for me every time I introduce a new fish because my lipstick tang thinks he is the boss of the tank. So, then I give him some time to fight with himself while the new fish gets settled. After a few days, they are great buddies.

    Try it, you got nothing to loose.
     
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    Whatif you go to a plastic land or so, buy a big see through plastic container, drill bigish holes in it, and place it in the DT, top side where bracing is. Then the new tank mate is safe, and gives other fish time to calm down?
     
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    id catch the scopas and place him in the sumpo for a while, let the tommini establish a territory and i would rescape as well, then reintroduce the scopas so that he has lost his familiar landmarks and see how well they settle in.

    the scopas should be easy (ish) to catch with him being so hell bend on getting at the terrified tommini (TT for short)
     
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    Hi Guys just to let you know everybody in my tank is happy again.. yay:thumbup:

    i covered my tank with blankets for about a day and a halve. and yesterday my scopas and tomini tang where swimming happily next to each other..

    Dallasg can you explain the fish trap a bit more?

    thank you all for your help and comments..
     
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