[wtd] Sargent majors or any unwanted fish

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  1. Aquetas

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    Hi all. Anyone have Sargent majors or any fish that they want to get rid off for free. Want to use the fish to build up bacteria in my tank.
     
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  3. Willie85

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    This is really sad to see you still use fish to start your cycle. :m107:
    I doubt anyone will be willing to help you.

    Get yourself stability from seachem at any lfs.
     
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    @ Willie

    Never assume thing you dont know. I did not say i want to cycel my tank but build up bacteria

    Ive been in this hobby longer than you so i would make comments that you cannot back.

    I have already added special blend, clarity, stability and prime in the tank and its already been cycled.

    If you see i want to build up some bacteria in the tank.

    Next time please ask before you assume anything. That really annoys me when people try to act smart
     
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    Aquetas, I have. Come catch them and u can have them.... lol.
     
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    @ acid

    Thanks. Once the tank has built up enough bacteria i will kindly return the fish to you.

    I dont want to just add in fish after the tank cycles and kill them cause there is not enought bacteria in the tank to support the bioload.
     
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    Yeah that's 100% buddy.
     
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    @Aquetas my apologies if I sounded harse, but please explain to me how you will benefit from adding fish to your tank to multiply Bacteria ? As more fish will only add more waste to your system, where as more feeding will do exactly the same. Marine bacteria utilize a vast group of elements and compounds to meet their energy and nutrient requirements. Marine bacteria have a special need for sodium. Other major elements required for marine bacteria growth and reproduction include carbon, nitrogen, phosphorous, oxygen, hydrogen, sulfur, potassium, magnesium, calcium, and iron. Common trace element requirements consist of manganese, cobalt, zinc, copper, and molybdenum. Chemical groups fulfilling energy and nutrient needs span an even broader range; inorganic carbon compounds, organic carbon compounds (generally, but not limited to, sugars and amino acids), inorganic & organic nitrogen compounds, organic sulfur compounds, inorganic phosphate compounds, and potassium, magnesium, calcium, and iron salts. Marine bacteria can sequester elements, such as potassium, within their cells at concentrations far in excess of the concentration of the element in their environment. Such sequestration presents the possibility of some degree of elemental depletion in a marine aquarium by bacterial export via protein skimming.
    Next time don't assume I act smart.
    Like you said this is merely a hobby for you.
    For some its a career and for others its a passion.
     
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    Hi willie. I don't think aquetas meant build bacteria as such. Perhaps a slight misunderstanding. One would add fish to create the building blocks for bacteria. A bit harsh to some and a very controversial topic in itself but in a nutshell, Ammonia is needed that gets converted to nitrite and then to nitrate. Bacteria is needed to do this conversion. By u adding fish, u actually adding ammonia and with the dosing of bacteria, u creating a cycle. Bacteria will now start to grow in numbers as the bio load increases. So technically, u can build bacteria by adding fish. It's much more simplified then getting into chemistry.
     
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    I'm with Acid as there is a difference in my opinion. No need for chemistry, I have observed it with my own eyes in this hobby
     
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    Confusion comes in when asking for unwanted fish, especially nasty things like sergeant majors, to add to a fishl ess tank.
    If the tank is ready for unwanted fish, it should be ready for any fish
     
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    I think its more about testing the tank with unwanted fish and risk losing them than adding wanted fish and them going to davy jones locker
     
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    We have test kits for making sure the water is suitable for fish.
     
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    but more along the lines of bacteria, to my knowledge you cant test that. merely the ' simptoms' if I can call it that- nh3 no2 no3
     
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    My intention was not to go into detail about what bacteria is or need, but merely the fact that you can add about anything to a tank to increase your bioload it does not have to be fish. Isn't the health of the fish our 1st priority? This is why you add one fish at a time to reduce the exposure of high levels of ammonia to the fish. The bioload will build up as you maturely add fish in a period of time.
    Why would you want to add fish to increase your bioload, remove the fish after your bioload was increased and then add your desired fish just to get a spike of ammonia again?
     
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    You don't necessary need live fish to build up bacteria ;)

    You can use dead prawns, reef builders like microvore brightwell etc etc...
     
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    Correct me if I'm wrong here but you say it's ok to expose 'unwanted fish' to high levels of ammonia but not 'wanted fish' because there is a possibility that they might die?
     
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    I'm saying its better to lose R100 than R1000
     
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    It's better to loose Nothing at all.
     
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    Exactly. Rather lose R0 and don't kill a fish by using fish food and test kits.
     
  21. Aquetas

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    getting fish from acid. closing thread
     
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