restarting my reef tank

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  1. Kavir

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    ok im restarting my aquarium, due to the fact i've been using tap water. i need help on this one theses are the things i currently have in the tank
    the main tank there's +/- 20kgs Tufa with 1 inch crushed coral 2x1200 l/ph p/heads the sump has 4 sections;
    1st- green sponge thing lol under that some white (BB gun pellet size) pellets in a scack & under that smaller tufa
    2nd to 4th section there's white (BB gun pellet size) pellets in a scack & under that smaller tufa, that flows to the skimmer and rerurn pump, so basically thats what i have for now
    tank 2m X1M X50 cm
    sump 90cm x +/-50 to 66cm X 50cm
    2x 1200 l/ph power heads
    +/- 20kgs tufa
    +/- 6 to 10 kg smaller tufa
    +/- 8kg white (BB gun pellet size) pellets in a scack
    protein skimmer
    lights, 2X 6ft 1000k t5
    2x 4ft 2000k t5
    oh yes a guy did say to build up bacteria put mollies, i did and they started to breed now i have like 30 mollies swimmin around, think the pet shop will buy them coz i need to get rid of them now (all of them) or could they help in any way/

    so in this week i'l be getting an RO unit.

    just need to know whats the difference with LR and Bio rock???? could i have both or only 1 or more of one then the other??? and once i get either one above sould i cure them or just pop it in the tank with RO salt water?????

    :errrr:so guys in i.e i need a new 101 on the reef aquarium, and sump filters. BTW im on a budget
     
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  3. ben lloyd

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    bio rock is home made and a quoter of the price .if you used bio rock you need to seed it with some l/r to get the sickle started in your tank.
     
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    Hi Kavir,

    It seems you may have been led a little astray by someone, but dont worry you are at the best place to get the right information.

    To help us help you, you need to show us some pics of the setup, esp the sump. I fear the pelets are going to cause a detritus trap, and will cause you problems later on.... but remove them very slowly, a handfull a day so as not to disturb the system too quickly .... only bad things happen quickly in Marines .....

    Also you need to consider the merits of a deep sand bed

    What marine setup are you hoping to have in the end? i suspect that with 2x1200l pumps your flow rate is way too low for SPS nd even most softies

    Live rock is essential as a filtration method for your reef, biorock is cheaper, usually home made and does not have the same filtration benefits as real live rock.
     
  5. Kavir

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    ok so bio rock aint all that good compard to LR???? ok i was told that the pellet thing is also a nirate factory and it aint good.

    what im planning is, draining all the water ( it's tap water salted) sell the mollies ans off spring coz they of no use, then clean the tank up propper, then once my RO unit is in then im in the game to restart... so is it a good idea to dump it or keep the water and then top it up with RO water for +/- 2 or3 weeks???? help

    then with the sump i'll up load som pics 2morro then you can see what it looks like...

    ps will be keeping mostly softies
     
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    Rather leave the water as you will loose loads of good bacteria and other critters. Do some big 20-30% water changes once or twice a week, you will eventually dilute down all the pollution in the water.
     
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    1 inch is not deep enough for a DSB and too deep for a SSB.

    Remove the sponge and other filter things. They collect gunk

    Bio is ceramic hand made rock. Baked at temperatures that should have removed all volatiles. Making them safe . Live rock is just that. Fresh from the ocean.
    Both good. Use the bio rock as base rock, and the use your live rock as upper structure exposed to light and flow.
    Depends... most LFS do the curing for you. My advise would be..if you have a spare tank suitable for curing with lots of flow and skimming, use it. If not , and your display is still emty, do the curing in the DT.
     
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    would i be able to use LR and bio rock now, or should i wait till the tap water's been flushed out with RO water?
     
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    You can use Live Rock
     
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    aaaahhhhh thanks warr and here i was thinking im gona lose all that salt water, now to start looking for some LR

    tell me 1 more thing what kinf of media will i need for the sump (im tring to upload pics but they all 1600 x 1200 so i cant upload) pm me an e mail add i'l send u the pic of the sump)
     
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    ha ha hope that pic helped
     
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    thanks for uploading the pics Warr, hope it helps with ideas guys

    could anyone ID the pellet things if it should be kept of removed? as well as other media to be added for the sump
     
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    I haven't seen pellets like that before, maybe they are being used similar to bioballs or ceramic rings, to promote bacteria.

    If I am correct, then they would work in a fish only system, but need to go if you going keep coral.

    Rather replace it with a DSB.
     
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    so then i'll be getting rid of it

    any ideas on a DSB for the sump?
     
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    Use either aragonite or Toys R Us playsand. If you go the playsand route make sure it cleaned properly.

    The depth of the DSB should be 150mm.

    You will need to get a hand full of sand from a fellow reefer to seed the bed and off you go.
     
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    so length dont matter just height??????

    should it be fine, course or that dont matter???
     
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