Rare Fish in South Africa

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  1. ReefMaster

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    Ive started this thread to catalogue Rare Marine Fish that you have either kept in your tanks or seen in South Africa, so please add to this if you think your specimen qualifies.

    'Rare' is defined by the Oxford dictionary as ... 'not found in large numbers and so of interest or value' In our reefing context more than 10 of any species is NOT regarded as rare. An unusual specimen of a species is also considered as rare.

    Lets see the weird and the wonderful. Moderators I guess will reserve the right to remove pics that are not considered as rare, so please use your discretion

    If anyone would like a photo taken of their rare fish or transformed into an artwork to hang on their wall or office, please PM me and we can work something out.

    CONSPIC ANGEL
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    MUSTARD TANG
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    MYSTERY WRASSE
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    SCOTT'S WRASSE
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    SNOWFLAKE CLOWNFISH
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  3. Tremayn

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    @Yuri, dude you're up
     
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  4. Yuri

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    Only the conspic angel is rare from your top list

    I have had and sum currently have a 3 gem tangs , black tang ( rostratum ) , Achilles hybrid , golden back trigger , wrought iron butterfly , african basslet , Mauritius clown fish pair , Mauritius pencil wrasse , Mauritius coral beauty pair , bandit angel , Kingi angel , griffis angel

    And soon I will have lots of new surprises ;)
     
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    Thanks Yuri, thats an awesome list you have there, pls post some pics and FTS,
     
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    My Conspic definitely rare dont know if any other's are still alive

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    Bandit also think it is the only one currently alive in South Africa

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    hybrid black tang - only one i know of in South Africa maybe more but not seen or posted!

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    male crosshatch trigger

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    think there are less than 10 of these in South Africa too! Blue -spotted jawfish

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    Golden pygmy angel also not common in South Africa maybe a handful

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    not sure how rare these are here but overseas they pretty rare! Gem tang

    there are many rare fish for us South Africans, but one of the rarest still is our local Kingi angel! that is uber rare in Aquarium keeping largely due to poor survival records and depths
     
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    Hi Achiles, that is an awesome collection you got there. He is an absolute stunner
     
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    this is the to die for list.....
     
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    Great thread and some awesome fish listed & photographed (keep them coming)
     
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    Impressive list of healthy, gorgeous fish, Achilles.
     
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    This is my rarest..
    Doesn't even have a scientific name yet!!!:eek:
    Nicknamed Kwazulu- Fairy Wrasse..
    I have a pair I've caught at 40M... in an area infested with Zambezi Sharks!!

    ThinK Yuri said they are the only ones in captivity, probably in the world!!

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    Awesome, do you mind if I try and post this on another forum so someone can ID it
     
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    Go for it!!!
    Yuri has been at it for a few months..
    Apparently he says it has been spotted before, but not in an aquarium!
     
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    Hi there

    It appears that RichMatlock had a go on the ID of this one.

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    no dude, I have imported a ton of those rubriventralis, they one of my favourites as they nice and hardy aswell once acclimated. Wouldnt be the first time fishbasre is talking out of its ass
    Quite probably. I spent a while getting an ID from brentv's pic in Feb, and am 99% positive that this is the dude. Yup, looks like FB needs an update. If you look at the "Occurrence Records", there are a whack from SA.

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    but sure the distribution of fish can be more widespread than say their naturally occurring habitat, can fish not travel with flotsam in the ocean, Egypt, Sri Lanka is not that far away. Also from the pics I see that the rubriventralis in the pics you showed Richard have a black spot on the tail while the "rare" one doesn't?
    Distribution range takes these onto consideration. I wrote most of my thesis on the differences with respect to "range" with respect to western Indian ocaen reef fish. The black spot develops with age, here's a rubriventralis with no black spot to make you happy.

    This pic was also uploaded by RichMatlock
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    hi Brent,

    what are the diagnostic differences between your fish and Cirrhilabrus rubriventralis?
     
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    I'll get some pics tonight I promise... I't not this wrasse, has way more stripes a dark black spot near the anul fin etc etc..
     
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    ...guess it does look similar though!!! Let's get the rocket scientists to figure it out!!
     
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    sorry - posted at same time as oceanseeker...
     
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    Do you know Rudie Kuiter he is the world's leading wrasse man
    I send him photos that he confermed it is a Kwazulu wrasse he even has a photo of it in his book
    This was what he told me in his email
    Hi Yuri,
    Yes, this is the little wrasse. Attached the page from my wrasse book which features this species and the species it was confused with.

    This is the info of his book
    Undetermined species, appears to be undescribed.
    Known from off South Africa and has been referred to as Cirrhilabrus rubriventralis, but is clearly different and shows some similarities to C. morrisoni, especially the female. Depth range given by Dennis King, who photographed this species, is 25–50 m. Length to 65 mm.

    Trust me it is a kwazulu
     
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    this means that some of the photos on the internet claiming to be C. rubriventralis could well be misidentified and could also be this undescribed species.
    It would be nice to know what are the clear differences, ie, fincount etc.
     
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