predators tickling me!

Discussion in 'Fish Only Tanks, Predator Tanks' started by duanead, 20 Dec 2011.

  1. duanead

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    Hi guys so I've got a 1000litre tank that I want to start in the new year and I'm very interested in predators these days,so I'm thinking of going for it with some advise please

    -So will 3 times the rated skimmer do say for instance a skimmer rated for 3000L
    -thinking of a dsb in sump is that fine?or what would you guys recommend?
    -will detritus be a problem?

    Wishlist is something like:

    -Lionfish
    -picasso trigger
    -moray eel
    -porcupine puffer
    -grouper
    -one of those blue dotted stingrays?
    -betta
    -and a compatible wrasse
     
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    dallasg Moderator MASA Contributor

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    for filtering i would keep it simple, skimmer rates 1500L or up
    LR in the tank, even fake dead rock, and bio-balls in the sump with a heater and return pump

    simple and very easy to maintain, nothing else is needed for fish

    as for lighting you can use energy savers - cool white mixed with warm white and blue
    these energy savers are all available at builders warehouse
     
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    Ahh cool that's awesome,I'm very excited,can't wait,

    What about the fish wishlist?will they go together
     
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    I don't know about the stingray - are you referring to Dasyatis chrysonata?
    what grouper? the wrasse may become dinner...:)
     
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    one easy rule for predator tanks...
    if it fits in the mouth its food, so plan carefully and research growth rates etc, also look at make partitions from egg crate so newly introduced fish can be kept separate
     
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    yup the trigger and the ray don't go together.

    From a filtration point of view:
    Big trickle filter to keep nitrite in check.
    No DSB. It will not be able to handle the bio load.
    Skimmer rated for about 2500l

    These guys eat big time so you will have high Nitrate and Phosphate levels. This will cause unsightly algae so i would also recommend a Denitrator and a Phosphate reactor.

    Also these fish are big so there is a lot of oxygen consumption. You will need a lot of surface agitation as well.
     
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    I kinda agree, but not really... I've got a 1300l predator tank pretty much as you've described. My inmates include a big picasso trigger, 5 different species of local wrasse, a few damsels, canthegaster, filefish, blenny, big semi angel and a couple of BIG morays. I'm using my own design of filtration - a deep mud/sand mix bed with plenty of sand and mud prawns. Sump is empty apart from a skimmer. I'm fine with algal growth as this will be sorted out as soon as one of my herbivores in my other tanks gets big and nasty enough to survive in this tank. Lighting is 6 x cfl fluorescents from Checkers and a double strip of blue LED's from the interweb.

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    How about a Torpedo ray? That would be interesting.
    Do people still keep Panther fish?
     
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    Yup we got a Panther about 350mm
     
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    I read that they are not very aggressive, is this true? Could be a lovely fish for such a tank.
     
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    Ours is not aggressive at all towards other fish. The triggers and other fish do not bother him though. Does not swim much. Seems to "Hang" in the tank, head down tail up. Eats very well and has a huge mouth.
     
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