Plumbing reactors

Discussion in 'Test Kits, Controllers, Reactors and Dosers' started by mytank, 31 Aug 2011.

  1. mytank

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    Hi there,

    I am looking at adding a Phosphate and Carbon reactor to my setup and need some advice on how to plumb these guys.

    I don't have anymore space in my sump so I am looking at running these guys EXTERNAL.

    So my questions:

    1. Are they safe to run external?
    2. Where do you plumb it into:

    2.1 Do I go overflow -> Carbon reactor inlet -> Carbon reactor outlet into -> Phosphate reactor inlet -> Phosphate reactor outlet -> Sump

    or

    2.2 Halea pump in the sump after the skimmer -> Carbon reactor inlet -> Carbon reactor outlet into -> Phosphate reactor inlet -> Phosphate reactor outlet -> back into the return chamber of the sump

    or

    2.3 Individual pumps for each of the reactors after the skimmer and both outlets back into the return pump chamber?

    Thanks for the advise
     
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  3. dallasg

    dallasg Moderator MASA Contributor

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    i use option 2

    but option 2 and 3 are the easiest for maintenance and installation
     
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    leslie hempel Moderator MASA Contributor

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    @dallasg

    option 2 (point what?)
     
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    heheehe I was about to ask that ;)
     
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    from an energy savings point of view i like to run such reactors off of my return line,

    its also generally feeding them the cleanest water as these reactors should be placed after skimming and solids removal has taken place.

    as for external, as long as they are properly sealed and easily acessable you can put the anywhere as they are sealed pressure (pump pressure) driven units...
     
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    2.2
    i dont like to fiddle with overflow
     
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    so if you doing them on the return line that means (please correct me if I am wrong) put them inline with the return before they go back into the tank. This way it goes return pump -> return line -> reactors -> back to return line -> back into the tank?

    I am thinking of daisy chaining them so they don't need their own feeds off the return right....

    i.e. Carbon outlet -> Phosphate inlet -> Phosphate outlet -> back onto return line -> back into tank.
     
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    As every mentioned above .... well i have a small sump, so i have my phos and carbon reactor in the return chamber. Have 1 pump feeding from the return into the carbon reactor -> phos reactor -> into the return again and the DT return pump does the rest.
     
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    You can also just run them in socks.
     
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    or stockings :)
     
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    I run them now in socks. So take this where it comes from but during my research I found that the penetration through the socks is about 20% of what a reactor can do. In addition I have them on the overflow inlet from the overflow as that's where I have the most flow in the sump. I hate having things at 20% hence why I am looking at the reactors.

    Let's open the sock vs reactor debate then. I currently have them in the "socks" they come in the phosphate remover is the Terra one .
     
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    feed them from the return line, -> reactor 1 and reactor 2 ( a valve per reactor may be necessary to regilate flow to the reactor and can be positioned before the water enters the respective reactor.

    then the exhale water from the reactors can simply be reintroduced back into a compartment of choice in the sump...
     
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    mytank Thread Starter

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    So help me understand here, if I am tapping into the return line why sould I return thr water from the reactors back into the return chamber of the sump and not just back into the return line which goes back into the tank.
     
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    if you are going to do this, make sure your return pump is strong enough to handle the extra load.
     
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    Good point I am looking at some of the Tunze silent range with a battery backup
     
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    not a bad idea at all im just concerned that if there is a blockage it may go by unoticed as opposed to if you could see the water flowing out of the reactors..

    @mytank but from a pressure point of view it would put less pressure on the pump...
     
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    So the way I was thinking:

    { Overflow pipe | Skimmer | Return } ------Return Line ----->Carbon (No pump)---> Phosphate (No Pump) ------Return Line -----------> Back into tank ----> Overflow ----------------> { Overflow pipe | Skimmer | Return }
     
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    yip, or any other suitable pump

    Flow will be too much.

    Better option is to split the return line. With a ball valve on the one line that feeds the reactors. That way you can close the valve and remove the reactors for maintenance. And the output from reactors to return chamber.
     
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    Hmmm ok I need to concepcuialize this, the feed still goes through the reactors BACK into the return line that goes into the tank.

    I am trying to avoid having to take the outlets of the final reactor back into the sump. Unless there is a good reason not to feed the last outlet of the reactors directly into the return line of the return back into the tank? I.e. Poluting the water etc etc
     
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