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  1. nathen

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    hey guys posted some pics as well as
    a diagram of what i have planned for the plumbing , input welcome , as what i should
    or shouldnt do with regards to plumbing

    dimensions : reef tank

    1500.600.600mm main tank one over flow wier
    return pump :2880lph Hailea
    two: sunsun powerheads 6000lph (for some circulation for now)
    two :300w heaters

    plumbing specs:im thinking on using
    50mm plumbing for the overflow
    and 32mm on the return
     
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  3. Singularity

    Singularity Hmmm amper!

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    here is your pics...

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    I take it your skimmer will go into the left hand chamber pf the sump? If so, why do you have a split in your overflow pipe taking water to chamber 1 and chamber 3?

    You want the skimmer to see al that water chap :)

    Otherwise pretty standard fare, and thats a pretty standard sump that is difficult to work with I am afraid - why do the LFS's still insist on building them like that? Let me guess, it came with bioballs for the central chamber of the sump? You may need to change it slightly as I did to accomodate a DSB in that chamber - but then again, I threw that sump out and put 2 sumps into the split cupboards like you have.
     
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    And the middle section of the sump? For ceramic rings and or bio-balls?

    Nothing wrong with that for a fish only or a FOWLR (Fish only with live rock) system. That sump will not do it when you want to go corals.

    Those sump designs are so yesterday. At least they left the baffles out this time, saving some space.

    http://www.marineaquariumsa.com/showthread.php?t=8478
     
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    Sorry, I do not want to wet your battery,

    but in the long run, you will change your sump. So its just a heads up, maybe do it now, or look into getting another tank in the bottom left connected to this one. Before you fill her up.

    Just investigate your options, and decide, then go forth with enough information to keep yourself happy.

    Or change the cabinet, remove that middle support, replace it with some other support structure, and have a longer "standard" sump.
     
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    Chris, unfortunately I am with Riaan on this. That sump is : shit : . I had exactly the same tank and had various issues with that sump design...rather change it now.

    You have such awesome equipment...why skimp on the sump
     
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    These sumps are not ideal for a LDSB type set up. But then not all systems need to be set up with a DSB. This is an aquariusts choice. So considering the latest flavour of the month (carbon dosing) this sump design is definitely not old school.

    If you are running a carbon dosing regime you do not need a DSB. Same applies with the latest vodka dosing nitrate reductor.

    I think it best for Nathan to do a lot more reading and asking questions and then decide what type of system he would prefer before we advise on hacking up and changing the sump design.

    Having said that a DSB is the best beginner type set up.


    @nathan as mnd123 says most of the water returning to the sump needs to go through the skimmer. I always put a ball valve on the pipe you have going to compartment 3 allowing one to restrict the flow through it. So one actually controls the flow through the skimmer. Also i recommend the compartment 3 return be rerouted to compartment 1.
     
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    Nathan, I will dig out my thread where I redesigned this sump
     
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    thanx guys for the heads up changing the sump this weekend , rather be told now then sit with a headache later
     
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    mnd 123:I take it your skimmer will go into the left hand chamber pf the sump? If so, why do you have a split in your overflow pipe taking water to chamber 1 and chamber 3?

    You want the skimmer to see al that water chap :)

    so i take it i should have the split, so i should place the valve , before the sump
     
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    Just a thought: You might also want to use some blue PVC pipe for the overflow and return from the pump. Because of all the light, you will get algae growth in the pipe.
     
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    Ok ive got EXACTLY the same sump. And want to start up too. But my tank is DT 600l, the LFS also reccomended it with bioballs but i bought a bigger (120l) sump with 4 chambers. Can somone please post a pic of what a sump should look like and were to put wat in the sump. I want to knock out the one chamber so that have tree chambers one for in sump skimmer one for DSB and one for the return pump. I will have a DSB in the DT aswell. Thought i had everyting sorted but if the sump is going to be a problem in the future thats going to be a dissapointment aferall this is my second sump and i havent even started up.

    http://www.marineaquariumsa.com/picture.php?albumid=12&pictureid=39
     
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    :p Not my sump, i just posted Nathen`s pics that he uploaded.
     
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    Ya unfortunately its mine il be goin to my LFS to ask him y he sold it to me :nono:
     
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    is it in the fourways area Nathen?
     
  18. nathen

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    nope :cnr Cason & Trichardt Road
    Boksburg Northexotic Aquariums and pets on another topic any one kwn were can i buy a TS4 skimmer over the counter
     
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    Is a TS4 not too big for that tank size? Overkill?

    Also will you be able to get it into that sump?
     
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    Wont fit a TS 4 in that sump...I battled with a TS 2, maybe nathen is doing a new sump
     
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    Sump change for sure , so i kind of get the feeling you guys dont like the sump:razz: so let me know about this design, plumbing included. so if u guys give me the ok will be using this design. O ps not my design taken from the Durso link,
    let me know
    what you guys think or dont think
     
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